Re: [IRCA] Likely new state (620-WTMJ)

["Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx>]

a station on 620 with a milwaukee area number.. i dont know, besides calll
letters, how it can get more conclusive then that.

Some DX'ers cost themselves some loggings by being so strict and rigid on
their rules

Paul

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Brian Rachford <azswdxing@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks for the thoughts on my tentative detection 620-WTMJ, and finally a
> belated response.  I'm still on the fence as far as counting it, but I'll
> wait a while in case I pick it up again during this favorable time of
> year.  Todd mentioned looking for 1150-WHBY as another current Wisconsin
> possibility.  Unfortunately, that's a difficult frequency without precise
> nulling of 1160-KSL.  There's still a few kHz of USB available between
> their lower IBOC sideband and splatter around the carrier to get 1150, but
> it's still challenging while using a cardioid pattern.  I did, however,
> pick up new KSEN this week while trying for WHBY (and another new state on
> a different frequency, but that's for another post.)
>
> Brian Rachford - Prescott, AZ
> azswdxing@xxxxxxxxx
> http://azswdxing.wordpress.com/
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > My standards for DXing AM Broadcast stations and counting it, determine
> > what the format is and find all stations on that frequency with the
> format
> > then listen for a slogan, local phone number or business name.. that
> > usually is more then enough to definitively answer who I heard without
> > needing a call letter id.
> >
> > And working in radio, I'm familiar with alot of the networks in terms of
> > the jingles they play, the personality names.. so that makes it even
> easier
> > for me to narrow something down.
> >
> >
> > Paul W.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm with Rick in that I want to have ample conclusive evidence pointing
> > > only to one station in order to count absent an ID.
> > > That might be a couple of local ads, it might be a traffic report with
> > > specific highways or intersections named, or something
> > > like that. There are many sets of standards among DX'ers and we each
> have
> > > to find what works best for us.
> > >
> > > Russ Edmunds
> > > 15 mi NW Phila
> > > Grid FN20id
> > > <wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (2) barefoot w/whip
> > > FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> > > Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
> > > modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
> > > Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Paul Swearingen via IRCA <
> > > irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
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> > > > From: Paul Swearingen <plsbcbdxer@xxxxxxx>
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> > > > Cc:
> > > > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 14:52:24 -0500
> > > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Likely new state (620-WTMJ)
> > > > If I don't hear two of three - call letters, frequency, or city of
> > > license
> > > > - I don't count it -Paul Swearingen, Topeka
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rick Dau <drummer1965us@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America <
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> > > > Sent: Wed, Nov 25, 2015 11:12 am
> > > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Likely new state (620-WTMJ)
> > > >
> > > > My attitude about whether or not to count something as logged if I
> > don't
> > > > hear CLs mentioned has always been...if there's enough evidence that
> > > points
> > > > to it and no other station, then I will put it in my logbook.
> > > >
> > > > I do have to be careful sometimes, though.  With college and pro
> sports
> > > > networks, there IS the old saying of "subject to change" and that
> > change
> > > > can, on occasion, happen right before the beginning of a season or
> even
> > > in
> > > > the middle of it.  Then there is the instance of what happened a
> couple
> > > > weeks ago when I heard the conclusion of a Minnesota Wild hockey
> > postgame
> > > > show on 1240.  The 2015-16 Wild network list shows WMFG in Hibbing as
> > the
> > > > only 1240 on the network this year, yet the CLs I heard did not sound
> > > like
> > > > WMFG.  Turns out, by way of contacting a DXer in St. Cloud, his local
> > > Wild
> > > > affiliate was carrying another team's broadcast that night, and the
> > > Wild's
> > > > game got bumped to WJON-1240, which is co-owned.  So WJON was the
> > > station I
> > > > was actually getting at the time.  But something like that doesn't
> > happen
> > > > too often, though.
> > > >
> > > > I do know of DXers who absolutely won't count anything without
> hearing
> > > > CLs, and that's their choice.  To each his own, as the old addage
> goes.
> > > > But I think so much of DXing is, or ought to be, common sense.  I
> mean,
> > > > let's be reasonable...if you're hearing someone on 700 with
> Cincinnati
> > > Reds
> > > > baseball, but don't hear an ID during commercial breaks, are you
> going
> > to
> > > > not count it simply because you don't hear the CLs?  The odds of it
> > being
> > > > anyone OTHER than WLW would be astronomical.  I would think that
> local
> > > ads,
> > > > especially if they contain local phone numbers with area codes
> included
> > > > will, the majority of the time, be solid enough to point to it being
> a
> > > > certain station.  Like being on 620 and hearing an ad with a phone
> > number
> > > > in the 414 area code.  GOTTA be Milwaukee!
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > > Rick Dau
> > > > South Omaha, Nebraska EN21af
> > > > Http://www.dxworld.com/bcblog.html
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: IRCA <irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
> > todftscytj7707 <
> > > > todftscytj7707@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 9:01:04 PM
> > > > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> > > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Likely new state (620-WTMJ)
> > > >
> > > >  Others would not but to me, when it's that obvious, I would count it
> > as
> > > > well.
> > > > Todd Skaine Bloomington mn
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device-------- Original message
> > > --------From:
> > > > "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx> Date:
> 11/23/2015
> > > > 6:23 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mailing list for the International Radio
> Club
> > of
> > > > America <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Likely new state
> > > > (620-WTMJ)
> > > > If you hear a phone number that ties it to a specific area, thats
> good
> > > > enough for me to count it.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Brian Rachford <azswdxing@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm almost certain that I logged Wisconsin for the first time here
> > with
> > > > > 620-WTMJ (1428 miles) near sunrise on the 21st.  My SDR recording
> > > caught
> > > > an
> > > > > ad for a "locally owned and operated" cleaning service with the
> > correct
> > > > > Milwaukee phone number, but the signal suddenly died right before
> the
> > > TOH
> > > > > call.  A few seconds later, semi-local KTAR suddenly appeared,
> > > presumably
> > > > > their switch to daytime ND pattern at 7am MST (my local sunrise was
> > > > > 7:08am).  WTMJ would have been on their more favorable daytime
> > pattern
> > > by
> > > > > then, more than an hour after their sunrise.  Not sure that I feel
> > > > > comfortable with one local ad without an explicit mention of the
> city
> > > > but I
> > > > > can't imagine what else it could be.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also had 1180-KZOT at the same time in the same direction (1020
> > miles).
> > > > > Even better, I had both 750-KAMA (400 miles/10 kW) and 1330-KCKM
> (584
> > > > > miles/12 kW) an hour later, so some nice lingering skywave that
> > > morning.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian Rachford - Prescott, AZ
> > > > > azswdxing@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > http://azswdxing.wordpress.com/
> >
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