Re: [IRCA] Likely new state (620-WTMJ)

[Rick Dau <drummer1965us@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

My attitude about whether or not to count something as logged if I don't hear CLs mentioned has always been...if there's enough evidence that points to it and no other station, then I will put it in my logbook.

I do have to be careful sometimes, though.  With college and pro sports networks, there IS the old saying of "subject to change" and that change can, on occasion, happen right before the beginning of a season or even in the middle of it.  Then there is the instance of what happened a couple weeks ago when I heard the conclusion of a Minnesota Wild hockey postgame show on 1240.  The 2015-16 Wild network list shows WMFG in Hibbing as the only 1240 on the network this year, yet the CLs I heard did not sound like WMFG.  Turns out, by way of contacting a DXer in St. Cloud, his local Wild affiliate was carrying another team's broadcast that night, and the Wild's game got bumped to WJON-1240, which is co-owned.  So WJON was the station I was actually getting at the time.  But something like that doesn't happen too often, though.

I do know of DXers who absolutely won't count anything without hearing CLs, and that's their choice.  To each his own, as the old addage goes.  But I think so much of DXing is, or ought to be, common sense.  I mean, let's be reasonable...if you're hearing someone on 700 with Cincinnati Reds baseball, but don't hear an ID during commercial breaks, are you going to not count it simply because you don't hear the CLs?  The odds of it being anyone OTHER than WLW would be astronomical.  I would think that local ads, especially if they contain local phone numbers with area codes included will, the majority of the time, be solid enough to point to it being a certain station.  Like being on 620 and hearing an ad with a phone number in the 414 area code.  GOTTA be Milwaukee!

73,
Rick Dau
South Omaha, Nebraska EN21af
Http://www.dxworld.com/bcblog.html
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Likely new state (620-WTMJ)

 Others would not but to me, when it's that obvious, I would count it as well.
Todd Skaine Bloomington mn

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device-------- Original message --------From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 11/23/2015  6:23 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Likely new state (620-WTMJ)
If you hear a phone number that ties it to a specific area, thats good
enough for me to count it.

Paul

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Brian Rachford <azswdxing@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I'm almost certain that I logged Wisconsin for the first time here with
> 620-WTMJ (1428 miles) near sunrise on the 21st.  My SDR recording caught an
> ad for a "locally owned and operated" cleaning service with the correct
> Milwaukee phone number, but the signal suddenly died right before the TOH
> call.  A few seconds later, semi-local KTAR suddenly appeared, presumably
> their switch to daytime ND pattern at 7am MST (my local sunrise was
> 7:08am).  WTMJ would have been on their more favorable daytime pattern by
> then, more than an hour after their sunrise.  Not sure that I feel
> comfortable with one local ad without an explicit mention of the city but I
> can't imagine what else it could be.
>
> Also had 1180-KZOT at the same time in the same direction (1020 miles).
> Even better, I had both 750-KAMA (400 miles/10 kW) and 1330-KCKM (584
> miles/12 kW) an hour later, so some nice lingering skywave that morning.
>
> Brian Rachford - Prescott, AZ
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