Re: [IRCA] Likely new state (620-WTMJ)

["Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx>]

My standards for DXing AM Broadcast stations and counting it, determine
what the format is and find all stations on that frequency with the format
then listen for a slogan, local phone number or business name.. that
usually is more then enough to definitively answer who I heard without
needing a call letter id.

And working in radio, I'm familiar with alot of the networks in terms of
the jingles they play, the personality names.. so that makes it even easier
for me to narrow something down.


Paul W.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I'm with Rick in that I want to have ample conclusive evidence pointing
> only to one station in order to count absent an ID.
> That might be a couple of local ads, it might be a traffic report with
> specific highways or intersections named, or something
> like that. There are many sets of standards among DX'ers and we each have
> to find what works best for us.
>
> Russ Edmunds
> 15 mi NW Phila
> Grid FN20id
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>
> AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (2) barefoot w/whip
> FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
> modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
> Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Paul Swearingen via IRCA <
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> > From: Paul Swearingen <plsbcbdxer@xxxxxxx>
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> > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 14:52:24 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Likely new state (620-WTMJ)
> > If I don't hear two of three - call letters, frequency, or city of
> license
> > - I don't count it -Paul Swearingen, Topeka
> >
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Dau <drummer1965us@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> > Sent: Wed, Nov 25, 2015 11:12 am
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Likely new state (620-WTMJ)
> >
> > My attitude about whether or not to count something as logged if I don't
> > hear CLs mentioned has always been...if there's enough evidence that
> points
> > to it and no other station, then I will put it in my logbook.
> >
> > I do have to be careful sometimes, though.  With college and pro sports
> > networks, there IS the old saying of "subject to change" and that change
> > can, on occasion, happen right before the beginning of a season or even
> in
> > the middle of it.  Then there is the instance of what happened a couple
> > weeks ago when I heard the conclusion of a Minnesota Wild hockey postgame
> > show on 1240.  The 2015-16 Wild network list shows WMFG in Hibbing as the
> > only 1240 on the network this year, yet the CLs I heard did not sound
> like
> > WMFG.  Turns out, by way of contacting a DXer in St. Cloud, his local
> Wild
> > affiliate was carrying another team's broadcast that night, and the
> Wild's
> > game got bumped to WJON-1240, which is co-owned.  So WJON was the
> station I
> > was actually getting at the time.  But something like that doesn't happen
> > too often, though.
> >
> > I do know of DXers who absolutely won't count anything without hearing
> > CLs, and that's their choice.  To each his own, as the old addage goes.
> > But I think so much of DXing is, or ought to be, common sense.  I mean,
> > let's be reasonable...if you're hearing someone on 700 with Cincinnati
> Reds
> > baseball, but don't hear an ID during commercial breaks, are you going to
> > not count it simply because you don't hear the CLs?  The odds of it being
> > anyone OTHER than WLW would be astronomical.  I would think that local
> ads,
> > especially if they contain local phone numbers with area codes included
> > will, the majority of the time, be solid enough to point to it being a
> > certain station.  Like being on 620 and hearing an ad with a phone number
> > in the 414 area code.  GOTTA be Milwaukee!
> >
> > 73,
> > Rick Dau
> > South Omaha, Nebraska EN21af
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> > From: IRCA <irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of todftscytj7707 <
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> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 9:01:04 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Likely new state (620-WTMJ)
> >
> >  Others would not but to me, when it's that obvious, I would count it as
> > well.
> > Todd Skaine Bloomington mn
> >
> > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device-------- Original message
> --------From:
> > "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 11/23/2015
> > 6:23 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of
> > America <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Likely new state
> > (620-WTMJ)
> > If you hear a phone number that ties it to a specific area, thats good
> > enough for me to count it.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Brian Rachford <azswdxing@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm almost certain that I logged Wisconsin for the first time here with
> > > 620-WTMJ (1428 miles) near sunrise on the 21st.  My SDR recording
> caught
> > an
> > > ad for a "locally owned and operated" cleaning service with the correct
> > > Milwaukee phone number, but the signal suddenly died right before the
> TOH
> > > call.  A few seconds later, semi-local KTAR suddenly appeared,
> presumably
> > > their switch to daytime ND pattern at 7am MST (my local sunrise was
> > > 7:08am).  WTMJ would have been on their more favorable daytime pattern
> by
> > > then, more than an hour after their sunrise.  Not sure that I feel
> > > comfortable with one local ad without an explicit mention of the city
> > but I
> > > can't imagine what else it could be.
> > >
> > > Also had 1180-KZOT at the same time in the same direction (1020 miles).
> > > Even better, I had both 750-KAMA (400 miles/10 kW) and 1330-KCKM (584
> > > miles/12 kW) an hour later, so some nice lingering skywave that
> morning.
> > >
> > > Brian Rachford - Prescott, AZ
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