Re: [Swprograms] BBC World Service North American Stream

[jfiglio1@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

Sandy/Richard:

I've been researching streaming sites since I got the Phoenix wifi 
radio.  What you're (we're) left with from a BBCWS streaming 
perspective is a "Information and Entertainment" stream, which is in 
actuality the Europe stream, and a "BBC News" stream which is one 
available only over the internet.  As I understand it, BBC used to 
have both WM and Real streams available across the board.  Now the WM 
streams are available only to UK listeners, with Real still provided 
to international listeners.  I, too, am surprised that the 
WM "Americas" (formerly Yahoo) stream has persisted for so long.  They 
might have just forgotten it was there, if that's possible.

The WS web site does provide a schedule for both "supported" 
streams.  "Sportsworld" isn't on either stream, unfortunately.  Rights 
fees issues prevent that.  This also affects almost all of the live 
event coverage on BBC Five Live.  An occasional rugby match manages to 
stay in the clear.  The schedule for live sports is posted on the Five 
Live web site.

John Figliozzi
Halfmoon, NY

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Cuff <rdcuff@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2008 2:31 pm
Subject: Re: [Swprograms] BBC World Service North American Stream
To: Shortwave programming discussion <swprograms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> It might come back, but I wouldn't stake my reputation on it.  (Not
> that my reputation is worth a hill o' beans anyway.)
> 
> That seemed to be a "back door" feed left alive from the days when
> Mark Cuban (he of the NBA Dallas Mavericks) ran Broadcast.com in the
> days before the speculative Internet bubble burst.  Back then, both
> Windows Media and Real versions were available.
> 
> Broadcast.com was purchased by Yahoo and folded into their Launchcast
> service, but they stopped offering hosted services to "branded"
> stations to focus on their own music offerings.
> 
> I have been surprised that the North American Windows Media stream
> lasted as long as it has, given that it was no longer promoted by
> Yahoo or the BBC.
> 
> I took a quick look at some of the entries for the Americas stream on
> the PRF website, and the majority of the time another streaming 
source
> airs the same program at the same time.
> 
> If there were specific programs airing at specific times that you 
were
> interested in, you could visit the World Service Americas page 
> here -
> http://www.publicradiofan.com/cgibin/station.pl?stationid=2 - select
> the program / time slot of interest, select the red "i" next to that
> program, and then see when that program is on air.  If streams other
> than the Americas streams carry the program at that time, they'll 
show
> up in the list.
> 
> For example, World Business Report -- currently airing -- is also
> airing on six other streams.
> 
> Interesting that the canned message uses the term "event" -- as if
> Yahoo is hosting something like a shareholder's meeting or other
> event-specific streamed audio.
> 
> I know Kevin Kelly looks at the swprograms list; hopefully he'll spot
> this and, for now, remove the stream from the BBC list.
> 
> Richard Cuff / Allentown, PA
> 
> On Feb 7, 2008 1:22 PM, Sandy Finlayson <sfinlayson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I noticed last weekend that the BBC World Service North American 
> Stream> which used to be available on Windows Media has 
> disappeared.  It is
> > still listed on the Public Radio Fan site
> >
> > http://www.publicradiofan.com/cgibin/station.pl?stationid=2
> >
> > ...but when you click on the feed you get a canned message 
> saying 'this
> > feed has not started'.
> >
> > Does anyone have information on what is happening with this feed?
> >
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