Re: [IRCA] philosophy of logging a new one

[Nick Hall-Patch <nhp@xxxxxxxx>]

Hi Stan,

I think the answers from Jim and Richard encapsulate things pretty 
well concerning "logging" based on hearing carriers or faint mumbling 
on an unusual channel.   There are likely those on the list who 
wonder about the point of reporting overseas carriers, to the point 
of thinking that this is carrying an already specialist hobby too 
far.   (don't all shout at once, hi)

Even if I wasn't intrigued by propagation, hearing a carrier on 1215, 
for example, sets off an alarm bell that conditions are 
improving.   If I hadn't heard Absolute Radio before and heard an ID, 
I'd be trying to figure out how I could be prepared to ID them, if 
and when audio appears.   A rare one isn't likely to generate a full 
identification at exactly the time that it fades up.

So, either you're going to be ready to  record it in the hope of 
getting material for  the station to verify, or you've looked for 
other means such as web streams, parallel broadcasts etc.   So, when 
the audio fades up, you have all the tools at your disposal.  (and 
no, I still don't, hi)

If you have already logged that station, then it alerts you, and 
anyone you tell, that an opening to the area is in progress, and 
again, to be prepared to snag new ones....look at your hunt list and 
be ready for what might only be a few moments of ID'able 
material.   Benin on 1566 is an example of this.   I think Nigel 
Pimblett is the only one in the west who has actually logged this, 
but there had been plenty of detective work, by him and others, 
before that logging, trying to figure out where that elusive summer 
time TA carrier was originating.

The same thinking applies to noting the exact frequencies of carriers 
heard to within a Hertz.   If an offset is distinctive, and many are, 
then you have a strong clue as to what might be possible, and to be prepared.

best wishes,

Nick


At 12:24 22-03-17, Stan Horzepa wrote:
> I have been chasing DX for almost 50 years.
>
> In ham radio, when I exchange signal reports with a DX station, I 
> enter the station in the log.
>
> With one-way DX'ing (LW, MW, FM, TV, etc.), when I hear (or see) the 
> call sign of the DX station, I enter the station in the log.
>
> But what about all those LW and MW carriers I see reported here on 
> almost a daily basis. Do you log them as new stations even though 
> you can not positively identify them?
>
> For example, last week I heard carriers on 549, 684, 693, 855 and 
> 1215, but there was no discernible audio to help identify those 
> stations. 1215 was probably Absolute Radio, but do I log it as a new station?
>
> What is the general philosophy about logging carriers?
>
> FWIW, I have not logged them as new stations. Am I being too conservative?
>
> Stan, WA1LOU
> Wolcott, CT
>
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