Re: [Swprograms] HD radio audio delay problems...

[jfiglio1@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

Oh... and as for the audio delay issue.

I also believe that the primary FM digital channel has to be identical 
to the primary FM analog channel, with the attendant switching and 
transparent (i.e.: no delay) capability.  After that, the digital 
multiplexed channels are on their own and there are no such 
restrictions or caveats placed on them.  MW digital, of course, is not 
authorized to multiplex, so no such problem there.

I believe it was Saul or Richard who stated that they hear talk on 
WHYY and then classical on WHYY digital.  Not so, I think.  What he or 
they are hearing is talk on the main WHYY-FM channel in digital or 
analog depending on receive location, signal strength, etc.; and then 
classical in digital on WHYY-FM2.  If the latter's digital signal 
drops out, there's nothing because there's no analog back-up.

jaf

----- Original Message -----
From: jfiglio1@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:28 am
Subject: Re: [Swprograms] HD radio audio delay problems...
To: Shortwave programming discussion <swprograms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> It's still early days, so I suppose that any 
> criticism/observations 
> should be couched in that knowledge, but...
> 
> At least in my market (Albany-Schenectady-Troy NY, approximately 
> 57th 
> in size nationally), the alternative offerings on the digital 
> multichannels are meager, largely repetitious and seemingly not 
> well 
> thought out or designed.  The public radio station (WAMC) hasn't 
> even 
> got its second channel stable as it drops out about every 30 
> seconds.  
> I called the station's engineer about this and he admitted as much 
> and 
> left me with the impression that getting it fixed was far from his 
> highest priority.
> 
> Most FM stations here don't even use RDS at all, let alone use it 
> intelligently by providing a stream of updated and timely 
> information 
> (such as song titles or weather or traffic).  The few second 
> digital 
> channels in operation provide a sort of automated ancillary 
> service 
> with no human presence.  For example, if the main channel is 
> alternative rock, the second channel is adult alternative.  Big 
> deal; 
> certainly not enough to send me out to buy a $200 radio to access it.
> 
> Perhaps this comes with being the 57th market; but for my money 
> the 
> policy decision to allow corporate interests to own and operate 
> multiple stations in the same marke--and have that multiple 
> presence 
> in each marke--has been an unmitigated disaster.  Perhaps the 
> solution 
> lies with demanding more of them as condition for the renewal of 
> their 
> licenses.  But--with commercial stations at least--the current 
> regime 
> is not working, either for listeners or investors.
> 
> John Figliozzi
> Halfmoon, NY
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Cuff <rdcuff@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:45 am
> Subject: Re: [Swprograms] HD radio audio delay problems...
> To: Shortwave programming discussion <swprograms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > Some do.  A Clear Channel AM station up here (WAEB, I think) 
> runs an
> > automated Oldies format on its HD2 stream; .  Clear Channel 
produces
> > literally hundreds of packaged formats that can be blended in with
> > automated local content (news, traffic, continuity, weather 
> [such as
> > it is]) as desired.
> > 
> > See 
> > 
> 
http://www.infinitedial.com/2007/02/more_care_and_feeding_than_som_1.ph
> p-- this is an interesting blog in the space.
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > Richard Cuff / Allentown, PA
> > 
> > On 10/23/07, Joe Buch <josephbuch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > I have been away from developments in this area recently.  You
> > > obviously have an advantage on me in that you have an HD 
receiver.
> > > WHYY-FM and WETA-FM are both public radio stations.  Maybe FCC 
has
> > > given them authority to run separate programs in order to 
> raise 
> more
> > > public funding and offload the need for government subsidy.  I 
> > wonder> if any commercial stations have separate programs?
> > >
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