Re: [Swprograms] DOUBLE STANDARDS!
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Re: [Swprograms] DOUBLE STANDARDS!



Guys:

Personally, I'm glad you brought this discussion back on topic.

I'm listening to the same BBC you both are and I'm not hearing it the way you are. Is it possible that much of this is only perception colored (er, excuse me, coloured) by a predisposed attitude toward what one is hearing?

To illustrate, one could draw the conclusion you drew from the comment about Americans in casinos, but--to be honest--I've been to those casinos and they are pretty "typically" populated by "overweight and poorly dressed" people. :-)

To my ears, the BBC reporters ask skeptical questions, sometimes quite bluntly. I can be and often am critical of this style of questioning--something that is relatively new to the BBC, had been more typical of American news reporting (now we just don't ask any hard or incisive questions) and to me is an outgrowth of the BBC's careless embrace of commercial broadcasting principles. But I have heard them do this from what might be called a more "pro-American" perspective toward those who are quite critical of the US, Bush, etc.

To sum up, I think what you're criticizing here is more a matter of style than a substantive expression of a BBC corporate attitude.

JMHO,
John (Figliozzi)

PS:  I, too, prefer RNZI (and RA!).


On Thursday, April 22, 2004, at 08:34 PM, rmonty23 wrote:

Very well said, Jim.
Funny how the rest of the world bashes the US constantly, yet they keep
coming. Cuba does the best job of them all, yet Cubans try every idea in
the book to get to the US. Some are rather creative, Chevy trucks and old
Buick's converted into boats. So there must be something good about this
country for so many to risk life to get here.


I don't really understand why the BBC has been bashing the US so much of
late. The past few years it has really been a little nerving. I recall a
female reporter interviewing an Iraqi Mother of two children, a month or two
after the fall of Baghdad, and the reporter tried her best to get the Iraqi
to say something negative about the US. She kept correcting the reporter as
she did not find her statements to be what she had experienced. She was a
little disappointed her kids could not get more recent games for their Sony
X2 game box, however.


I prefer RNZI!
Bob Montgomery
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Strader" <jimstrader@xxxxxxx>
To: "Shortwave programming discussion" <swprograms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Swprograms] DOUBLE STANDARDS!


Paul,

I didn't watch the show and can think of no reason why CBS
decided to air the picture of a dying Princess Diana.
But, I do take exception to your statement that "people
who watch American TV are operating double standards".

The average American has NO say as to what the networks
decide to air. I also haven't met a single person who
saw the Janet Jackson  and got as irate as the right wing
news channels and the FCC. It's all a game by the present
administration to divert attention away from their debacle
in Iraq.

I don't think I would ever assume that the citizens of Great Britain
are at all responsible for the "America Bashing" being spun by the
BBC since 911. I had hoped that this would change with the recent
resignations
at the BBC, but it still continues. In 40 years of listening to the BBC,
the
last three years have been full of contempt for Americans. The best
examples
I can think of offhand are 1) a BBC reporter, reporting from Foxwoods
Casino
on the success of the American Indian Casino's, made the blunt statement
that
the casino was filled with "Typical OVERWEIGHT and POORLY DRESSED
Americans".
2) the BBC correspondent denying that the Americans had made it to
Baghdad,
because he couldn't see any Americans and he said it was typical American
propaganda.
I'm listening to this while watching LIVE pictures of US Tanks rolling
though the
streets of Baghdad on CBS T.V. That's the day the BBC World Service made
my
shit list
where it still remains.

I blame this on the BBC, not the listeners.

I also find it amazing that three weeks ago I watched a few different
European & Middle
Eastern TV Stations via Satellite Dish showing uncut footage of 4
Americans
being dragged
from a couple of burning vehicles and CHOPPED into pieces with shovels by
smiling Iraqis.
The American TV stations did not show this horror. Where's all the outrage
for that?




peace to all
jim strader


----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul David" <pauldavid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Shortwave programming discussion" <swprograms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:06 PM Subject: [Swprograms] DOUBLE STANDARDS!


CBS TV is being rightly crucified in the UK by no less a person than Tony
Blair for showing pictures of Princess Diana dying after the car crash in
Paris in 1997. The people who watch American TV are clearly operating
double standards here. Firstly, they round on CBS for daring to show
Janet
Jackson's breasts, an incident so trivial it hardly deserves comment. Yet
a
couple of months later they sit in front of their TV screens watching many
of the same CBS stations showing the sickening pictures of Princess Diana.
I hope and trust that those of you in the USA reading this message did not
stoop so low as to watch your local CBS affiliates last night.


Certainly if I was a watcher of CBS TV in the States I would be writing to
my local affiliate leaving them in no doubt that they should not have
shown
such pictures, which surely go beyond the pale!

Now, back to the short-wave wireless.
PAUL DAVID,
Wembley Park, United Kingdom>
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