Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Getting to the bottom of 1710 - OT Chuckle

[Saul DX <sauldx@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think one raeson it can happen is the sheer volume of e-mail...I know I've 
let a few slip By I shoulda responded to....


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From: "HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS" <DAVID.HASCALL@xxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [NRC-AM] Getting to the bottom of 1710 - OT Chuckle


David,

That first sentence is oddly funny but quite true.  I had to look up
oligarchy in the dictionary. :)  It meant what I thought it would.
However I'm not sure that the "oligarchical tradition" is just reserved
for the NRC.  And maybe not even radio related hobbies, either.

I am on lots of forums and lists, both DX or non-DX related and I have
been ignored in several instances.  It is funny, even though it
shouldn't be.  Maybe it's because I'm younger than lots of the old
guard, don't own tens of thousands of dollars of equipment, etc.  In the
past, I have tried to help some DX'ers with unID's, ask for advice, and
so on while 90% reply there are some of the "elite group" that just
ignore me and my "peonic" self.   Don't try to look up "peonic" it's not
in the dictionary.

73 and thanks for the inadvertent chuckle.

73,
Dave in Indy



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Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:31:47 -0400
From: David Crawford <davidecrawford@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Saul DX <sauldx@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Getting to the bottom of 1710
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Working down your list, sir...

Have never confirmed that Top Inter is actually on the air; I asked
Connelly since he's local, but was ignored, in keeping with
NRC oligarchical tradition.  It seems unlikely that it is actually on,
given Soleil on the same channel, and I've never seen an
actual log of it that confirmed it was Top Inter and not Soleil.

Will check my peninsular comrades with respect to Dade City.  Note that
there are two list entries for the same location.

Lubavitscher (thus nicknamed by virtue of being run by Chabad Lubavitsch
sect) used to be easily heard down here but not for a
few years, far stronger than anything heard there now.

Fenique/Summum was publicized but never confirmed on the air at any of
their alleged tx sites.  When Lakay showed up, we first
thought it was this but it was determined otherwise.  All details about
this one were derived solely from their website.

Lakay is off, was audible here daytimes even but didn't last more than a
few weeks, last log being 15 April 2008.  I DF'd that
one to Winter Haven myself.

Soleil is confirmed active, 1709.983, tends to be the second strongest
station on channel here, but generally buried by Celestial.

Will inquire regionally re. KONK also.  I thought that was on 1630 (see
entry on link below).

Celestial is the dominant 1710 station here, 1710.026 typically.

Big Q has been known to make it into our area during its sporadic
appearances, though I have yet to hear it myself since I'm
rarely DXing at 0300 local.

Most of these stations are somewhat off-freq but generally stable.
Characterization of their freqs down to the Hz would be
useful for IDing when signal strength doesn't support aural
identification.

This site has some Floridian 1710 references:
https://sites.google.com/site/floridadxn/florida-low-power-radio-station
s
Terry isn't good about closure on the station entries however, i.e.
recording then they disappear, so they don't necessarily
still exist simply because an entry doesn't say they pulled the plug.

Note the one entry about the WOCL/WKTK relay there;  that's our biggest
regional mystery, but it shows up very rarely.

Undercover Radio (SW pirate) has used 1710 on occasion, audible here.

If you plan to do so, it would be great to have a 1710 list online that
is actually up-to-date and relies on something besides
others' old web postings as information sources.  You'd have my
enthusiastic support with my own observations.

73,
dc



On 04/01/2011 07:02 AM, Saul DX wrote:
> I haven't seen these posted yet - web links with live audio to some of
the 1710 stations we're talking about.
> I'm in downtown Toronto where DXing is near-impossible, so that gives
me time to think outside my radiobox. When I'm at my Burnt
> River DX site I'm so focused on the radio (when I'm not working) that
I neglect these things.
> You can bet I'll be trying to sync what I'm hearing on 1710 with these
live links whenever I'm on 1710. They give every
> impression of being live.
> Radio Celestiale: www.smjrc.com <http://www.smjrc.com>
> Radio Soleil Internationale: www.radiosoleilinternational.com
<http://www.radiosoleilinternational.com>
> Radio Top Inter: Nothing I can find
> I think these two live audio sites - if they're truly live, and it
sounds like it - are a no-brainer for anyone of us DXing
> 1710. Use these to ID the stations and/or rule them out and have other
suspects.
> I'd like to further have us all tear through Shawn Axelrod's excellent
list on amandx and sort out what's on the air full-time,
> occasionally, or not at all. Some of the following are in a community
near YOU! So please help the cause!
> So, from www.angelfire.com/mb/exband/miscunid.html
<http://www.angelfire.com/mb/exband/miscunid.html> :
> 1710 RADIO TOP INTER HYDE PARK-DORCHESTER MA USA FRENCH CARIBBEAN
RELAYED ON 98.9 FM
> 1710 WDCX DADE CITY FL US NEWS TALK
> 1710 LUBAVITCHER RADIO NEW YORK CITY USA HEBREW/YIDDISH FORMAT ALSO
CALLED RADIO MOSHIACH & REDEMPTION
> 1710 W807 GLASFORD IL USA
> 1710 AM 1710 ANTIOCH ANTIOCH IL USA OLD TIME RADIO
> 1710 RADIO FENIQUE/RADIO SUMMUM JACKSONVILLE FL ORLANDO
FL/LAWRENCEVILLE GA USA GOSPEL/TALK/WORLD MUSIC
> 1710 VOIX DE LAKAY WINTER HAVEN FL USA
> 1710 RADIO SANTIAGO ??? NEW YORK USA
> 1710 RADIO SOLEIL INTERNATIONAL STOCKTON MA USA VOICE OF THE HAITIANS
> 1710 RADIO AMOR CARSON CITY NV USA SPANISH MUSIC AND RELIGIOUS
> 1710 LIBERTY RADIO SOUIX FALLS SD/OMAHA NE/MAPLE GROVE MN/SOUTH BEND
IN USA POLITICAL TALK
> 1710 RADIO ? TU IDENTIDAD RADN TUCSON AZ USA SPANISH LATIN
> 1710 NEIGHBOURHOOD RADIO HALF MOON BAY CA USA COMMUNITY RADIO
> 1710 WSOL FORT WAYNE IN USA R&B MUSIC
> 1710 DADE CITY FREE RADIO DADE CITY FL USA OLDIES MUSIC OLD TIME RADIO
AND TALK
> 1710 THE WIRE NORMAN OK USA UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA
> 1710 CNX RADIO CONNECTICUT MIDDLETON CT USA ROCK MUSIC HIGH SCHOOOL
SPORTS
> 1710 KOLD LINCOLN NE USA OLDIES TALK OLD TIME RADIO
> 1710 KDHM WAXMAN RADIO AM 1710 WALNUT RIDGE AR USA SPORTS OLD TIME
RADIO
> 1710 SENIOR RADIO EDISON NJ USA NOS BIG BAND OLDIES
> 1710 KONK KEY WEST FL USA VARIETY
> 1710 RADIO CELESTIAL BRONX NY USA SPANISH RELIGIOUS
> 1710 WONE OMAHA NE USA URBAN TALK THE ONE
> 1710 RUSSIAN CHURCH STATION PUGET SOUND WA USA SATELLITE FEED RUSSIAN
RELIGIOUS PROGRAMMING
> 1710 AM 1710 LIGHTHOUSE RADIO BAYVIEW/MILWAUKEE WI USA CLASSICAL MUSIC
IRN NEWS FROM SOUL'S HARBOR BAPTSIT CHURCH ID AS AM 1710
> BAYVIEW MILWAUKEE
> 1710 THE BIG Q UNKNOWN USA OLDIES
> 1710 KMUD MOJAVE DESERT AREA CA USA RELAY OF KMUD FM
> I can say from hearing it last week that the Big Q is a very
occasional oldies pirate, and I am guessing Michigan, but that's
> just a guess. I also wonder if Radio Mosiach is still on the air. It
used to be dominant. But now we have Celestial in the
> Bronx. I never heard it ID as or be called Lubavitcher Radio, though -
I think that's just a nickname we DXers gave it. But
> maybe I'm wrong?
> Saul Chernos
> Toronto/Burnt River ON
>
>
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