Re: [IRCA] WBCA-1110 Cheating

["Les Rayburn" <les@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Kaz's point is valid. My concern is that DX'ers are in the habit of
using the term "cheating" as a generic adjective to describe any
station running on day power after their authorized hours.

Frankly, I don't see how either situation is a bad one for
DX'ers. A malfunction or deliberate "cheating" results in the
chance for us to log a station that wouldn't be receivable
otherwise.

Obviously if a station does it every night for months and months,
the argument could be made that they are preventing the
reception of weaker stations...but I maintain that prolonged
operation outside allowable power levels is the concern
of the other stations on that frequency who might be
receiving interference....not the concern of hobbyists.

As someone who deals with broadcasters nearly every day
trying to arrange tests, I'd rather we err on the side of
presuming innocence, rather than guilt. Least we end up
biting the hand that feeds us....

73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
NRC/IRCA Broadcast Test Coordinator
Please call anytime 24/7 if your transmitter
will be off the air for maintenance.
(205) 253-4867


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neil Kazaross" <neilkaz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" 
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Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] WBCA-1110 Cheating


> As one DXers who will take the other side of what I hope won't become the
> usual flame war when this topic has been discussed, I must comment. Last
> night and many others provide a perfect illustration between "cheating" 
> and
> "malfunctioning".
>
> As long as 10 years ago, WBCA was one of the first daytime only stations
> that I observed to be habitually on at night. This wasn't every night, but
> it was more than a few and more likely on Fri/Sat night when they might
> expect more listeners. This wasn't a case of a station with a PSSA 
> operating
> at 500w maximum (most are lower power) for up to 2 hours after sunset, it
> was a case of them operating on full power for at least several hours 
> after
> sunset and sometimes AN. WBCA was warned by the FCC and I believe fined at
> least once and had been behaving most of the time for the last couple of
> years. Was last night an unintentional mistake ?  If so then it is in the
> same catagory with someone who has 3 DUI's and drives home with a B.A.C. 
> of
> .23 (almost 3 times most state's limit for DUI)
>
> WNAX on the otherhand  and assuming they were on day pattern (noting they
> are 5 KW day and night) is likely a case of malfunctioning. I don't see 
> what
> they have to gain by leaving day pattern on at night and strongly suspect
> some kind of error that will be corrected shortly. Perhaps they have a
> temporary STA to use only 1 stick due to a problem or need to work on the
> antenna array ?
>
> Anyhow, there is a big difference between the first time (basically) a
> station is noted almost certainly on day pattern and one that has been on
> night with 10 KW when it is supposed to sign off at sunset !
>
> 73 KAZ hoping this is his only comment on this issue, but expecting it 
> won't
> be.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Les Rayburn" <les@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America"
> <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] WBCA-1110 Cheating
>
>
>> I'd like to ban the term "cheating" from the slang
>> of DX'ers. It presumes guilt, as in, this station is
>> broadcasting at their day time power in order
>> to increase their listening audience and make
>> more money.
>>
>> I prefer the term "malfunctioning" which is a better
>> way to describe a broken or misprogrammed
>> automation system, human error, or other
>> unintentional happenings.
>>
>> Obviously some stations do "cheat", but I'd rather
>> give our friends in broadcasting the benefit
>> of the doubt.
>>
>> That sound you hear is your broadcast test coordinator
>> getting down from his soapbox. :)
>>
>> 73 and Good DX,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Les Rayburn, director
>> High Noon Film
>> 100 Centerview Drive Suite 111
>> Birmingham, AL 35216
>> 205.824.8930
>> 205.824.8960 Fax
>> 205.253.4867 Cell
>> http://www.highnoonfilm.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "texas4421" <texas4421@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "IRCA" <IRCA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:44 PM
>> Subject: [IRCA] WBCA-1110 Cheating
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1110  WBCA    AL  BAY MINETTE   2230  07/01/06   AD FOR WALLY'S BBQ 
>>> "WHEN
>>> IN
>>> YOUR IN LOWER ALABAMA, STOP BY WALLY'S, RIGHT NEXT TO THE POLICE 
>>> STATION,
>>> ON
>>> HIGHWAY 98."
>>>
>>> I believe this station is cheating, as they are covering WBT, Charlotte,
>>> NC.
>>> Are listed as a day-timer. They have some type of talk show on and are
>>> talking how the media dropped the ball on the West Virginia miners 
>>> story.
>>> Lee Freshwater's list shows they are southern gospel, so could also be a
>>> format change.
>>>
>>> Willis, WB5KHD
>>> Old Fort, TN
>>>
>
>>
>
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