Re: [IRCA] IBOC/analog reception comparisons.
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Re: [IRCA] IBOC/analog reception comparisons.



I second Chris' opinions below...

don kaskey



Chris Black wrote:

> But we sure don't deserve IBOC. I'll probably get sent to the
> principal's office again and be forced to listen to a full season of
> Tony Danza re-runs, and I will probably say good bye to the IRCA also,
> but for the reason that I am not into being treated like a four year
> old. I will be looking for a club (if there is one) with a little
> wider focus and breadth, not a politically correct sewing circle. I
> think someone like Paul is a breath of fresh air. And if the IBOC
> hacks on the list don't like it then that's tough. If someone wants to
> call me a putz on or off a list, I am perfectly capable of dealing
> with it myself. I don't need to whine to anybody that my feelings are
> hurt.  Good grief, Charlie Brown. Semper Fi Chris BlackCape Cod
>
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: Jack McAlister
>      To: david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Mailing list for the
>      International Radio Club of America
>      Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:03 PM
>      Subject: Re: [IRCA] IBOC/analog reception comparisons.
>       David,It is people like myself that lose by you removing
>      yourself from this thread. I am a Newbie Ham and love Radio,
>      both communicating and listening. I personally wish you
>      would reconsider your decision.73Jack "gunny"KE7FMD
>
>           -----Original Message-----
>           From: irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>           [mailto:irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
>           David Gleason
>           Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:43 PM
>           To: 'Mailing list for the International Radio Club
>           of America'
>           Subject: Re: [IRCA] IBOC/analog reception
>           comparisons.
>
>           This is my last message on this reflector, as I
>           have unsubscribed and also asked my IRCA
>           membership to be terminated. DXing is not the
>           radio friendly hobby it once was, living a
>           symbiotic and friendly relationship. Members of
>           both clubs are antagonistic to radio, and qualify
>           as grouchy old men in most cases. No wonder
>           stations don?t verify any more!
>
>           In my discussions with Mr. Mangled English, I have
>           been asked by Lynn to ?simmer down? when I was the
>           one called a liar, cheat, thief of a billion
>           radios, ad nauseum. Obviously, someone who is in
>           radio who actually knows what is going on in the
>           industry has no place in this club or on this
>           group.
>
>           W:  I run a multi million dollar research
>           department, and our job is to find out what
>           listeners want. When we see research done by
>           others (as in the iPod issue) we independently
>           verify it, using the highest standards of polling
>           with a national staff of over 60 people who only
>           do radio research. Or job is to protect $3.5
>           billion in radio properties and we do that by
>           giving the listeners what they want, and we do it
>           well because our sector listens an average of 24
>           hours a week, 25% more than the general market. We
>           are not out to prove an untruth, as that would
>           totally violate or reason for existence. But there
>           are a few people in here with absurdly and
>           bizarrely wrong ideas about radio and radio
>           listeners who have no interest in learning truth,
>           and insult the character and values of any who
>           disagree.
>
>           You all deserve each other.
>           ---------------------------------------------------
>           From: irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>           [mailto:irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>           Of W. Curt Deegan
>
>           Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 7:09 PM
>           To:Mailing list for the International Radio Club
>           of America
>           Subject: Re: [IRCA] IBOC/analog reception
>           comparisons.
>
>           Thanks?  Sure!
>
>           Thank you, for substantiating my point.
>
>
>
>           W. Curt Deegan
>
>           Boca Raton, (Southeast) Florida
>
>           David Gleason wrote:
>           Thanks. I did the poll myself with my in house
>           call center.
>           ---------------------------------------------------
>           From: irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>           [mailto:irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>           Of W. Curt Deegan
>
>           Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 6:53 PM
>           To:Mailing list for the International Radio Club
>           of America
>           Subject: Re: [IRCA] IBOC/analog reception
>           comparisons.
>
>           Sounds like nonsense to me.  Just like most poll
>           results, it reflects the results wanted by those
>           who pay for the poll.
>
>           No ads, no fading from obstructions, play what you
>           want when you want.  A play list is more than just
>           content, it is the order and frequency played as
>           well.  You collect all the songs you can, but you
>           listen to what you like.
>
>           Curt
>
>           David Gleason wrote:
>
>           There is definitely an element of "it's my list"
>           but the fact is, extensive
>
>           research showed the average number of songs on an iPod is 300 and they
>
>           closely mirror the playlist of the radio station the iPod user listens to.
>
>
>
>           The key issue is that carrying an iPod is cool, while a (analog) radio is
>
>           not. iPod = cool. Digital = Cool. Make radio digital, it is cooler than it
>
>           was and moves up in image among entertainment choices.
>
>
>
>
>
>           -----Original Message-----
>
>           From: irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>           On Behalf Of W. Curt Deegan
>
>           Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:47 PM
>
>           To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>
>           Subject: Re: [IRCA] IBOC/analog reception comparisons.
>
>
>
>           It doesn't have anything to do with digital, except as a means to an
>
>           end.  It is their play list, not someone else's, that's why they like it.
>
>
>
>           W. Curt Deegan
>
>           Boca Raton, (Southeast) Florida
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>           David Gleason wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>          > Put a frame around those comments! Very nicely
>          > stated, Russ.
>          >
>          >
>          >
>          > Perception is reality, or why would people prefer the ultra compressed
>          >
>          >
>          >
>           audio
>
>
>
>          > on an iPod to CDs and FM?  It's because it's an
>          > iPod and it's digital!
>          >
>          >
>          >
>          >
>          >
>
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