Re: [IRCA] IBOC/analog reception comparisons.

["Gerry Bishop" <gerryb4991@xxxxxxx>]

Well, maybe some places radio listening is more common at home or at work
than in the car.  No one I work with has a radio, but mp3 players and CD
players are common.  I'm hard pressed to find any teenager who regularly
listens to the radio anymore, even in the care.  Certainly anecdotal
evidence of the circle of kids that my son knows, through school and various
community groups, indicates that radio plays little to no role for them.
Not scientific, but surely not too far from the average anymore.  It does
seem indicative that Apple IPods are already in short supply for this
holiday season.

Places I do know that radio is common include the multiple construction
sites in this area.  Observation indicates that these are not expensive
radios, but the cheapest box with the biggest yell to it.  

Of course, this area, the 214th market or so, doesn't matter at all, what we
think, watch, buy, listen to, or any of that.  So I'll just shut up on the
whole debate again and let another buncha city fellers tatter their suits on
the latest great thing to come along.

Gerry Bishop
Niceville, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of David Gleason
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America'
Subject: Re: [IRCA] IBOC/analog reception comparisons.

Start with a false premise and much damage can be done, Chris. 

Less than 30% of radio listening is done in the car. Not "most" but less
than a third! Both in-home and at-work listening make up more, individually,
than in-car. And this is nothing new. 

As to the snake-oil reference, keep in mind that radio in the US has been
commercial for over 8 decades, and the enormous diversity of formats and
offerings we have in the US differs wildly from places where the government
once controlled or still controls most broadcasting. 

My AM and FM experience with IBOC / HD covers multiple markets, including
stationary and mobil reception of our own stations in boht bands. In all
cases we find the AM HD signal is clear and interference free beyond the
reliable analog range (due to noise levels consuming the AM even within the
10 mv/m countour in big cities) and the FM has no trouble within the 60 dbu
contour... well beyound where most listening takes place, in fact. 

IBOC is a costly transition. It will, ultimately, give many more channels to
the consumer for free. It will also protect the jobs of the 125 thousand or
so of us who work in radio, and guarantee free radio for the future and
compatibility with existing receivers. It is not perfect, but it necessary
for radio to continue to compete. 

-----Original Message-----
From: irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Chris Black
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:22 AM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] IBOC/analog reception comparisons.

For me, not a technical person, it just boils down to the incredibly sad 
fact that a precious and finite resource, the electro-magnetic spectrum, is 
being raped and pillaged. And for what? So the snake-oil salesman's pitch is

supposedly better heard? Maybe in a laboratory setting, the sound is better,

but in the car, where most people listen to the radio, with all the other 
noises, I doubt that most 50 plus year old ears could notice any difference.

But no use beating the proverbial dead horse. Corporate greed has stupped us

again, what else is new?. All I can say to those who were given ONE channel 
and decided to take THREE is, "shame on you".

I am probably spending as much time now on Aero NDB beacons as MW or FM. 
Lets hope they don't figure out a way to 'IBOC up' that band too.

Hope everybody has a great Thanksgiving. All the best to all in the club 
from Cape Cod.



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