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Re: [IRCA] philosophy of logging a new one



Hi Todd,

As one referred to in your comments, I would defer to Neil on this one. Unless you can ID something about the signal, the music, language, station ID, or other identifiable characteristic it is best to err on the side of caution, and not claim it. Another way would be direction finding, but with skywave propagation anomalies this is not necessarily a sure bet.

73 to all,

Mike Bates


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Today's Topics:

    1.  TP 25 Mar Victoria version (Nicholas Hall-Patch)
    2. Re: philosophy of logging a new one (Todd S)
    3. Re: Alberta lack of TPs for 25 March 2017 (Mauno Ritola)
    4. Oklahoma TP DX 3/26/17 (Richard N Allen)
    5. philosophy of logging a new one (Marc DeLorenzo)
    6. Re: philosophy of logging a new one (Russ Edmunds)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 08:00:15 +0000
From: Nicholas Hall-Patch <nhp@xxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [IRCA]  TP 25 Mar Victoria version
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Started live listening at 1330UT, but the recording told me that the
Chinese had invaded about 20 minutes before.

What a morning, have no idea what I missed...plus, it just wouldn't stop.
HLAZ was still talking at 1535UT, 90 minutes after local sunrise



pretty darn good audio (all of it understandable by a native speaker, at
least briefly):

567 JOIK man in Japanese 1302UT
594 JOAK one of many big peaks at 1333UT with man in Japanese
747 JOIB woman in Japanese 1357UT
774 JOUB woman in Japanese 1334UT
828 JOBB woman in Japanese 1350UT
1566 HLAZ woman in Japanese 1313UT; didn't quite get to this level during
the Chinese program



Reasonable audio  at  times during the period (much of it understandable by
a native speaker, though often battling w/splash or noise):

693 JOAB woman in Japanese worming around 690 splash 1353UT
891 JOHK man talking //594 1352UT
945 CNR1 man and woman in Chinese 1334UT, and used for various parallels
also
954 JOKR man in full speed Japanese 1318UT
972 HLCA woman talking in Korean 1329UT
981 CNR1 echoey woman in Chinese 1314UT, just spanking 980's splatter




not so reasonable audio, occasional words or phrases in splash or noise
could be understood by a native speaker:

558 HLQH soft music //603 1322UT
603 HLSA soft music //558
639 CNR1 music and woman talking //945 1308UT
702 NHK2 woman talking //702, but also a hum and at least one other staiton
1317UT
1017 operatic male singing 1326UT CRI?
1044 CRI likely, woman in Japanese 1320UT
1053 man in Chinese, Yanbian? 1314UT, 6 carriers on channel including one
which was 14Hz low
1206 Yanbian likely, Korean woman over slow music 1305UT
1287 JOHR woman in Japanese 1402UT





Burbles in the splatter and noise (if lucky, language might be guessed at
by cadence of talk, or parallel established by changes in talk or music)

558 lively Japanese sounding talk by woman likely JOCR 1322UT
585 JOPG man raising his voice //594 1332UT
639 JOIP NHK pips 1400UT, man talking //594
738 pop music 1348UT; Taiwan?
837 JOQK  woman talking //594 1333UT, plus who knows what else; messy
846 NHK1 man talking //594 1304UT
864 man talking, maybe Korean ?? 1341UT
963 CRI woman and man talking //1323
1035 likely CNR1 echoey talk by woman 1312UT, seemed //981
1053 man talking, Japanese inflection 1348UT
1089 male ballad 1342,not //NHK2, but didn't sound like the classical fare
often heard on CNR5
1152 NHK2 woman talking //774 1327UT
1179 man talking at high speed, Japanese inflection 1346UT
1242 man talking, Japanese inflection 1406UT
1323 CRI woman talking //963 1312UT
1593 CNR1 man talking //945 1331UT
1593 NHK2 man talking //774 1404UT


Strongish het, no or "near imaginary" audio (either undermodulated or
ravaged by splatter)

621 657 819 855 936 1098 1143 1503 1512 1575 seemed to be Asian;    1098
seemed   DU


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 09:45:16 +0000
From: Todd S <amdxing1976@xxxxxxxxx>
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Back in the 80's 891 and 1521 were always in together right after Sunset
night after night. The same holds true today. Right after sunset, if 890 is
getting a banging het from 891, I check 530, 550 and 710 and each and every
time all have hets on them from 531, 549, and 711 always in semi au cx and
barefoot, not once, but 5 times this season under semi au cx then I believe
I've got a strong chance that this won't be Europe. Europe, barefoot, has
not been in well for me this year 1000, I've not hear absolute radio at all
this year on 1215 nor France on 1206. Please also do not forget that George
Sherman and Mike Bates were on top of TA propagation for many years and
they taught me a lot of the nuances. So in conclusion I do believe I can
say that this is a no brainer unless I had a KAZ antenna. If I had a nice
terminated, directional antenna then things would get more complicated. But
I do not.

So I usually keep my thoughts, and my catches to myself because some people
on here seem to think I report fake dx. It's been done on here...publicly.
And I not once EVER received an apology for it.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:18 AM Neil Kazaross <neilkaz58@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Basically no brainer hets but you need to hear audio that you can at least
tell is Arabic. Note that these aren't completely no brainers. Saudi fades
out not much after 0300 and I've logged Spain from both IL and WI. I've
also logged Portugal and 891 from my WI site which can be super good for
low/mid band to Iberia.

73 KAZ

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Todd S <amdxing1976@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Food for thought, what about no brainer consistent hets from 891 and 1521
in the Midwest?


Todd Skaine
Bloomington Mn

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 14:01:43 +0300
From: Mauno Ritola <Mauno.Ritola@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Alberta lack of TPs for 25 March 2017
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I think the bubble jamming is from North Korea. Heard sometimes weak
also here in Finland.

73 from still snowy eastern Finland,


Mauno

25.3.2017, 21:55, Volodya S kirjoitti:
Very nice Asian reception into Masset this morning. Highlight was 1584 with
bubble jamming. ? Iran, cochannel 100w NHK 1 often at good level. Not a
peep from DU and a modest post LSR enhancement. Indonesia on 90 and 60
meters exceptionally well heard. 73, from a sunny Queen Charlotte. Walt

On Saturday, March 25, 2017, Nigel Pimblett <nige2730@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

      Yesterday was very minimal signals, but today went one step further,
with no audio at all from TP/DU stations.   Plenty of DU carriers,
especially on the lower half of the dial, but none that quite made audio.
Unusually the closest was on 567, not normally among the first tier here.



73,


Nigel Pimblett
Dunmore, AB
Perseus SDR with Wellbrook Phased Array

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 07:54:06 -0500
From: Richard N Allen <richarda@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [IRCA] Oklahoma TP DX 3/26/17
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774 JOUB heard at 1031-1037 and 1050-1055 peaking to poor level both times before fading away.

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA,
WR-G313e + ALA1530LNP.

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