Re: [HCDX] USSR in 1920s and 1930s did not jam -- USA politically is approaching USSR after WWII, jamming is not geopolitiacally impossible...
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Re: [HCDX] USSR in 1920s and 1930s did not jam -- USA politically is approaching USSR after WWII, jamming is not geopolitiacally impossible...



You are right.
Actually, the first country that started jamming was Italy.
This happened during the Mussolini fascist regime 1922-1945.
When Mussolini took power in Italy all leftist and liberal parties 
and trade-unions were banned.  The leaders of the Italian Communist 
Party were in exile in Moscow.  They started radio broadcasts
over Radio Moscow in Italian - the most famous figure was
Palmiro Togliatti.  Mussolini answered by starting jamming 
against these radio transmissions.

Jorma Mantyla
Kangasala, Finland
http://www.kaapeli.fi/~jmantyla/

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, mhev wrote:

> USSR in 1920s and 1930s did not jam; yet the USSR became the most
> significant jammer for nearly 50 years.
> 
> The USA politically is approaching USSR after WWII, so jamming is not
> geopolitiacally impossible...
> 
> Past good behavior does not indicate future good behavior when 'oscillatory
> antagonism' (the prelude to war) is a possibility.
> 
> I am not against jamming, per se -- but its usefulness is made possible by a
> very narrow set of conditions.
> When these conditions cease -- the need for jamming ceases.
> 
> I specifically have been amazed that these have not been jammed (notice US
> origins of some)
> 
> SATCOM:-
> 
> XM
> Sirus
> -- End of Sat Radio section
> 
> DirectTV
> Echostar
> CNN internal feeds (or to cable systems)
> MSNBC internal feeds (or to cable systems)
> 
> US Export Film Channels to ASIA
> 
> ==============
> 
> It is possible to be a very influential world broadcaster and not be jammed.
> RFI has never been jammed in its entire history, even Radio Canada
> International can't make that claim.
> RNZI has never been jammed && Radio Australia has never been jammed.
> 
> In my proposal to the Canadian PM for the expansion of RCI, depending on how
> it is implemented is borderline between RFI's model what the Radio Australia
> would be doing (if it had any further interest in the target areas and
> languages that I propose)...
> 
> The webpage is:
> 
> http://CBC.am/rci.htm
> -- Letter to PM
> 
> http://CBC.am/rci-bc.htm
> -- BC Technical
> 
> http://CBC.am/rci-sask.htm
> -- Sask Technical
> 
> =======================
> You can design your own relay station
> =======================
> 
> http://www.elbert.its.bldrdoc.gov/pc_hf/hfwin32.html
> 
> Problems to solve:
> 
> 1. Getting 50 to 60 dbm into the target area.
> 2. Not putting to much EME into the oceans (Pacific Ocean Broadcasting
> Exemption!)
> 3. Evenly saturating the target area, if you can.
> 
> etc ...
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Walter Salmaniw" <salmaniw@xxxxxxx>
> To: "mhev" <mhev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <hard-core-dx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 17:08
> Subject: Re: [HCDX] Radio Free Cascadia -- amazingly not jammed by
> VOA/IBBDelano!
> 
> 
> > At 01:21 PM 9/15/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Radio Free Cascadia -- amazingly not jammed (@250kw) by VOA/IBB Delano!
> > >
> > >The HRS12/4/1 antenna system in Delano was designed to combat possible
> > >future USSR jamming in Latin America; with 26.1 dbi forward gain
> > >transmission system.
> > >
> > >I am amazed that it has not been used against Radio Free Cascadia +
> Chiapas
> > >Rebel Radio (name?).
> >
> > We're getting a little silly now, aren't we?  When has VOA ever jammed
> > anyone, as opposed to any of the countries of the former east block,
> > including Cuba today.  Let's be serious here, and not throw meaningless
> > political barbs!
> >
> > Walter (Volodya) Salmaniw, MD // Victoria, BC, Canada
> 
> 
> 
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