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Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag



I remember Chuck talking about a non-linear amplifier for the DKAZ - one that gave more oomph on the low end than the top end.  That would be nice.

I end up making liberal use of attenuation on the Perseus to not overload the top end to get enough signal on the low end.

Chuckâs non-linear amp would be a very nice addition to a 9:1 balun for the business end of a DKAZ vs. a FLG100[LN].

Op amp with some external components and an ability to actually adjust where the rolloff begins aught to be possible.

Who will design such a device?

May we could talk Andy into making a âspecialâ DKAZ version of the FLG100?!

Wild talk from a crazed DXer.

Bill Whitacre
Alexandria, VA

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> On Oct 23, 2018, at 10:48 PM, Nick Hall-Patch <nhp@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for doing that Chuck.  One interesting number is 42dB F/B at 0.5MHz for 120'.  Is that correct?
> 
> But the problem seems to go beyond low signal level on the lower band with smaller DKaz.  Beyond that one data point I mention, it also seems that the larger DKaz provides significantly better F/B on the low band, as it also weakens the F/B on the upper band.
> 
> Looks like two DKaz' are in order for the next DXpedition, a big one and a small one...
> 
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 01:31 2018-10-24, Chuck Hutton wrote:
>> Here's a little comparison of DKAZ'es from 100' to 200'.
>> 
>> 
>> LENGTH  .5 MHZ GAIN     1.5 MHZ GAIN    .5 MHZ F/B      1.5 MHZ F/B
>> 100     -61.1   -34.6   35.1    47.3
>> 120     -58     -31.8   42      32.5
>> 140     -55.4   -29.5   37.4    30.7
>> 160     -53.2   -27.5   39.4    26.5
>> 180     -51.2   -26.8   44.8    22.2
>> 200     -49.5   -24.2   45.2    19.1
>> 
>> 
>> The formatting is a little messed up when pasting data from Excel.
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: IRCA <irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Don Moman VE6JY <ve6jy.1@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:02 PM
>> To: International Radio Club of America
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KAZ versus Pennant/Flag
>> 
>> http://www.durenberger.com/documents/DKAZ070314.pdf   is updated and still
>> SOME FIELD INFORMATION ON THE DOUBLE DELTA (D KAZ) ANTENNA<http://www.durenberger.com/documents/DKAZ070314.pdf>
>> www.durenberger.com
>> The D$B!>(BKaz antenna for MW (and well above) is a Double$B!>(BDelta variant, as seen below. The $B!H(Bself$B!>(Bimpedance$B!I(B of the D$B!>(BKaz is around 1000 ohms at corners $B!H(BA$B!I(B and $B!H(BB.$B!I(B The null$B!>(Bpot at 2000 ohms gives good range.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> shows the 140 foot version.  I don't see anything more recent.... I wish I
>> had. Is there a link?  I just built 4 of them last year, one for each major
>> direction. I finally have them all hooked up for this season. With the low
>> wire they are a great moose catcher!  I could have easily made them higher
>> but I was just following the instructions. I could have made them larger as
>> I have plenty of room. Now not so easy...
>> Don
>> VE6JY
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:36 PM Chuck Hutton <charlesh3@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> > As do we all I think. The 140 foot version was abandoned over 5 years ago
>> > as it wasn't cutting it at th low end.
>> >
>> >
>> > Chuck
>> >
>> >
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