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Re: [HCDX] long-haul FM DX
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- Subject: Re: [HCDX] long-haul FM DX
- From: Günter Lorenz <glorenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:07:53 +0200
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- Thread-topic: [HCDX] long-haul FM DX
Sorry, no direct path Venezuela - Romania on FM.
No doubt that the program was produced in Venezuela, Henriks research is 100% perfect. Daniels reception was aired via a station in Spain.
>From the Italian Group "fmdx_ITALY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx", posted on 09.07.2009:
-- quote --
Hi Daniel,
You heard La Mega Radio from Valencia: this spanish station repeat the programs of the colombian station Mega Radio.
Tnx to Dario Monferini for the research.
Fabrizio Carnevalini
Il programma è PRODOTTO in Colombia ma lo RITRASMETTE in SPAGNA .....
88.8 LA MEGA RADIO (97.9, 98.7, 107.1 y 107.4 ) ZONA
CHESTE-CHIVA C/ José Andreu Alabarta 3, entlo, 1ª,
46014-Valencia
Si tratta della emittente di Valencia che si
chiama LA MEGA e che trasmette tra 88.7 e 88.8 MHz da
Valencia....
http://www.lalistadelafm.com/cvalenciana.htm
www.lamegaradio.fm/
..
-- unquote --
73,
Günter Lorenz
www.fmlist.org
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: hard-core-dx-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:hard-core-dx-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von
> Henrik Klemetz
> Gesendet: Samstag, 1. August 2009 09:19
> An: playdx2003@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; condiglist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> hard-core-dx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; aurel
> chiochiu; Glenn Hauser
> Cc: Juan Carlos Lemieux; Jorge Medina; broadw@xxxxxxxxx;
> ve2shw@xxxxxxxxx; Tudor M. Vedeanu;
> venezuelanqslhelp@xxxxxxxxx;
> flying_dead_corpses_in_the_sky@xxxxxxxxxxx;
> MarkWA1ION@xxxxxxx; mtardif17@xxxxxxxxxxx; Jorge Garcia;
> da_18gurlz@xxxxxxxxxxx; olivier.tequi;
> o_p_nimigean@xxxxxxxxx; bourdeau_annemarie22@xxxxxxxxxxx;
> anti_nerd_inc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Betreff: Re: [HCDX] long-haul FM DX
>
> Venezuela seems to have been heard on FM in Romania
>
>
>
> I have been
> doing some further research, finding sufficient evidence to
> show that the clip
> recorded in Romania
> on July 1, 2009 was aired by a Venezuelan FM network.
>
>
>
> If you type
> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuito_Unión_Radio#Lunes_a_Viernes_2
>
> you will
> find that the Unión Radio network runs a sub-network called
> La Mega where there
> is a regular feature run by Alejandro León (mentioned in my
> previous mail),
> Mo-Fri at 2-4 pm, which is called "Zona Escolar FM".
>
>
>
> It is this
> programme that the FM DXer in Romania
> has picked up.
>
>
>
> The two
> school girls invited as "locutoras" whose names were given in
> my previous mail,
> are probably shown on the first picture with the programme
> host Alejandro "mi
> papito" León, at
>
> http://zonaescolar.net/verFotos.php?1631,Fm.html ;
> (Clicking on the picture a host of new pictures can be seen). In the
> report showing what was done on July 1, which can also be
> found at http://zonaescolar.net/verFotos.php?1631,Fm.html ;
> it says, "Miércoles 01 de julio
>
> Hoy nos acompañaron como locutoras invitadas Paola Barreto y
> Maria Alejandra Morales ambas estudiantes de 8º grado del
> Colegio Santa Gema."
>
>
>
> On the Mega
> home page, where Alejandro León is shown, it is said that the
> Mega transmitter
> in Puerto Ordaz, 88.9 (why not 88.7??), probably will have to
> stop relaying the
> "Zona Escolar FM" programme if president Chávez´s new and
> restrictive media law
> takes effect. See:
> http://www.lamegaestacion.com/index.aspx#&&NewsId=19186
>
>
>
> Henrik Klemetz, Sweden
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Den sön 2009-07-26 skrev Henrik Klemetz <hklemetz@xxxxxxxx>:
>
> Från: Henrik Klemetz <hklemetz@xxxxxxxx>
> Ämne: Re: [HCDX] long-haul FM DX
> Till: playdx2003@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, condiglist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> hard-core-dx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "aurel
> chiochiu" <acq@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Glenn Hauser" <wghauser@xxxxxxxxx>
> Kopia: "Juan Carlos Lemieux" <elroockie007@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "Jorge Medina" <jjllms@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, broadw@xxxxxxxxx,
> ve2shw@xxxxxxxxx, "Tudor M. Vedeanu" <tmvedeanu@xxxxxxxxx>,
> venezuelanqslhelp@xxxxxxxxx,
> flying_dead_corpses_in_the_sky@xxxxxxxxxxx,
> MarkWA1ION@xxxxxxx, mtardif17@xxxxxxxxxxx, "Jorge Garcia"
> <garcia.jorgegarcia@xxxxxxxxx>, da_18gurlz@xxxxxxxxxxx,
> "olivier.tequi" <olivier.tequi@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> o_p_nimigean@xxxxxxxxx, bourdeau_annemarie22@xxxxxxxxxxx,
> anti_nerd_inc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Datum: söndag 26 juli 2009 09.24
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> There are a few things needing more work.
>
> 1. I am hearing bits and pieces such as "....está pasando la
> movida escolar venezolana, sintoniza La Mega, de lunes a
> viernes de 2 a 4 de la tarde, porque tú..."
>
> 2. The mention of a programme host as "Alejandro Leon,
> PRODUCTOR NACIONAL INDEPENDIENTE 3104"
>
> 3. Reference made to the programme host as "Alejandro MI
> PAPITO León".
>
> No. 2 and no. 3 are consistent with Venezuela. The P.N.I.
> lincensing appears to have been created by the Chávez
> government, apparently in an answer to the "certificado de
> locutor" of earlier governments, and "Mi papito" is arguably
> unknown as a term of endearment in Spain but quite consistent
> with Venezuelan (and Colombian) practice.
>
> 4. On the Spain main it is rather unusual to present school
> girls the way we are hearing, as "señoritas", in this case
> Paola Barreto and María Alejandra Morales.
>
> There is a Venezuelan FM station on Isla Margarita on 88.7
> where programmes are arranged in 2-hour blocks, but so far I
> have been unable to check the info with my Venezuelan contacts.
>
> Whether aired or not on a Spanish FM station, this feature
> seems to have originated in Venezuela.
>
>
> Henrik Klemetz
>
>
> --- Den lör 2009-07-25 skrev Glenn Hauser <wghauser@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
>
> Från: Glenn Hauser <wghauser@xxxxxxxxx>
> Ämne: Re: [HCDX] long-haul FM DX
> Till: playdx2003@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, condiglist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> hard-core-dx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "aurel
> chiochiu" <acq@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Kopia: "Juan Carlos Lemieux" <elroockie007@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "Jorge Medina" <jjllms@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, broadw@xxxxxxxxx,
> ve2shw@xxxxxxxxx, "Tudor M. Vedeanu" <tmvedeanu@xxxxxxxxx>,
> venezuelanqslhelp@xxxxxxxxx,
> flying_dead_corpses_in_the_sky@xxxxxxxxxxx,
> MarkWA1ION@xxxxxxx, mtardif17@xxxxxxxxxxx, "Jorge Garcia"
> <garcia.jorgegarcia@xxxxxxxxx>, da_18gurlz@xxxxxxxxxxx,
> "olivier.tequi" <olivier.tequi@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> o_p_nimigean@xxxxxxxxx, bourdeau_annemarie22@xxxxxxxxxxx,
> anti_nerd_inc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Datum: lördag 25 juli 2009 22.30
>
>
> The 88.7 ``Colombian`` has already been discussed at great
> length including in DXLD. It turns out there is a relay in
> SPAIN of the Colombian station.
>
> Alabama FM to Ireland, on the other hand, has been verified.
> Paul Logan also got several other eastern US/Canadian FM
> stations in that obviously multi-hop Es, not F2 opening.
>
> 73, Glenn Hauser
>
> --- On Sat, 7/25/09, aurel chiochiu <acq@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > ¡ Hóla queridos parceors, panas y
> > patas !
> >
> > Due to the lack of any sporadic E openings lately (and the
> > huge amount of them back in late June when I used to woke
> > around 1PM when the Es was winding down), I decided to take
> > a look over youtube and see what the Romanian DXer Zvartoshu
> > has received...
> >
> > I came upon this
> video and I almost believe its a fake:
> > Colombian station heard on 88.7 Mhz in ROMANIA via
> > double-hop F2 skip - it must be a fake... The F2 has not
> > even reached the old Eastern bloc OIRT-FM band at 65-75 MHz,
> > so how can it reach 88.7 MHz ?
> >
> > Check out this video... is there some TEP scatter or some
> > TEP linking to double-hop Es, I mean Colombia to Brasil,
> > then Brazil to northern Africa, then Es to Romania, but it
> > sounds splendid ! I tried to meet this guy when I was in
> > Romania, but he didn't seemed very interested in meeting
> > another DXer...
> >
> > Anyway, here is the video to watch out !
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuVbgDZ5F68&NR=1
> >
> > Cada uno dentre nosotros sabe que la propagación en la FM
> > tiene un más pequeño alcanzo que sobre onda larga, media
> o
> > corta... Con la falta de abiertura E esporadicas durante la
> > última semana y mi pasión tan grande para el DXismo, he
> > tratado de mirar videos sobre YouTube... No puedes adivinar
> > como me siento cuando miro que un DXista venezolano ha
> > logrado una emisora COLOMBIANA en la FM en Rumania con una
> > video sobre YouTube para probar... Pienso que Rumania es
> > mejor que Canada para el DXismo FM, pero de todos modos, la
> > propagación este-oeste desde Colombia hacia Rumania en la
> > FM me parece imposible... o tal vez una mezcla de TEP y de
> > Es pero aún eso me parece muy lindo... El peor es que los
> > DXistas que han escrito comentarios sobre ese video no han
> > parecido tan sorprendidos... Todo eso me parece un sueño
> > fuera del cual tengo que despertarme... pero si me gustaría
> > lograr una emisora FM de la costa norte de America del Sur,
> > ¡claro!
> >
>
> > Puedes disfrutar ese video
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuVbgDZ5F68&NR=1 es
> > malicioso ha puso sú computador frente al WiFi a cerca de
> > sú camera web y, luego, ha abierto sú tuner FM sobre una
> > frecuencia vacía...no... ¡que cobardía! He tratado de
> > encontrar a ese DXista extraño durante mi último viaje sin
> > exito...sería interesante de hacer DXismo consigo - es el
> > mejor DXista TV-FM que nunca he conocido...
> >
> > También, alguien en Irlanada a logrado a escuchar algo
> > desde Alabama en la FM, pero eso es un poquitito más
> > cercano... Espero que Mike Bugaj va a conseguir ese video
> > sobre ABDX o WTFDA...
> >
> > ¡ Hasta pronto - me siento engañado por ese video tan
> > malicioso !
> > Bogdan Chiochiu en Canadá
>
>
>
>
>
>
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