[IRCA] [WTFDA] Re: Montreal 690/940 to return?

["HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS" <DAVID.HASCALL@xxxxxxxx>]

I read that proposal and it mentions "Montreal Region."  "Region"
grabbed my attention.  50 Kw makes sense to cover areas outside of
Montreal proper.  

I wished that Homeland Security (US) would have mandated that one analog
Low band VHF TV station be kept on each market for weather, alerts and
so on.  Good DX target and provides an important function, since DTV is
not always reliable.

73,
Dave in Indy


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 13:44:16 -0400
From: "Wm R Hepburn (Grimsby ON CAN)" <cxgy@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Doug Smith <w9wi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "amdx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <amdx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Amdx] Montreal 690/940 to return?
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It's not that bizarre. Niagara Falls has a 5,000 watt TIS.....CJRN 710. 
    (the TIS' history can be traced back to an 8 watt TIS on 91.9).

Even Environment Canada, at one point, did research on the potential use

of high power AM for its weather broadcasts in remote parts of the
country.

   wrh


On 2011-05-19 1:31 PM, Doug Smith wrote:
> Mike B. wrote:
>> On 5/17/2011 10:24 AM, Doug Smith wrote:
>>> A post on radio-info.com links to a Montreal Gazette article
indicating
>>> that two new all-traffic stations (one English, one French) will
launch
>>> on AM in that city later this year.
>>>
>>
>> Why does Montreal need an all-traffic station, especially a 50kw 
>> station? Doesn't *anyone*, AM or FM, do traffic in Montreal?
>>
>> And what's wrong with having some weaker traffic stations somewhere 
>> in the 1600-1700khz section of the AM band like we have here (Tune in

>> to 1670AM for the latest traffic reports...etc...)
>>
>> Looks to me like somebody has money to burn...
>
> Consider that Canadian TISs are not necessarily non-commercial...  and

> they have a (provincial) government contract.  Actually, I wouldn't be

> entirely surprised if it's cheaper for Transport Quebec to pay 
> Multimedia CMR to run a pair of 50kw TISs than it would be to install 
> a dozen or two 10-watters spread around the Montreal area and the 
> necessary infrastructure to feed them all programming.  While it's not

> cheap to provide electricity and maintenance on two 50kw transmitters,

> it's also not cheap to send techs all over the city maintaining a 
> dozen or two remote sites.
>
> In any case they couldn't do it in the X-band, as that's full in 
> Montreal.
>
> I do note there are thirteen proposals for low-powered (14-watt) 
> stations on 910 in the Montreal area.  I wonder if these are what 
> Transport Quebec originally proposed?
>


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 11:08:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter Baskind <ag4ki@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "amdx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <amdx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,	Doug Smith
	<w9wi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Amdx] Montreal 690/940 to return?
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I think your point that one transmitter site being cheaper to run and
maintain is valid.  But, I have to wonder why 50 kW would be necessary
for this purpose.

If the intent is to run a traffic/TIS station, the coverage area
provided by big power, low on the dial is a waste.  Unless you're in
metro-Montreal, the signal is not useful.  A kW or two would be more
than adequate to cover the City.

Why spend the cash on the power bill?

Peter, N4LI

Peter Baskind, J.D., LL.M. 
Germantown, TN 
901-624-5295

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