Re: [IRCA] Tecsun PL-300WT-- A Sizzler on AM & FM, A Fizzler on LW and SW
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: [IRCA] Tecsun PL-300WT-- A Sizzler on AM & FM, A Fizzler on LW and SW



Kevin,

No indiation that any Silicon Labs chips support SSB ... right now it looks like they're going after the mass consumer market.

Paul

--- On Tue, 6/2/09, satya@xxxxxxxxxxxx <satya@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: satya@xxxxxxxxxxxx <satya@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Tecsun PL-300WT-- A Sizzler on AM & FM, A Fizzler on LW and SW
> To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 11:20 AM
> Hey guys:
> 
> I also look forward to the PL-310 and PL-380, also
> advertised as having
> DSP.  If they used the chip with SW capability, then
> these would be much
> better sets for SW listeners.  On the one hand, if
> they are otherwise the
> same performers for AM and FM one might just stick with the
> P-300WT,
> although having a keypad and perhaps other bells and
> whistles might be
> nice as well.
> 
> Paul - it doesn't look there will be an SSB receiver with
> DSP, at least
> not this year: does it look like any of the Silicon Labs
> chips support
> SSB?
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > Thanks for the information on the PL-300WT's AM-FM DSP
> chip, and of course
> > the radio's uneven performance on LW and SW certainly
> makes me agree  with
> > your statements.
> >
> > It's obvious now that Tecsun designed the breakthrough
> DSP performance  to
> > apply only on AM and FM, and the LW and SW bands are
> mediocre additions
> > which  border on the defective. I myself have
> been puzzling why Tecsun
> > would
> > even wish  to include them in this innovative
> receiver, but I suppose that
> > if
> > they were  lacking, purchasers might think that
> this was only another
> > typical
> >  AM-FM portable receiver for local reception
> (which of course would be a
> > great mistake), and pass over this receiver in favor
> of its 4-band
> > competitors.
> >
> > 73, Gary
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 6/1/2009 10:16:22 P.M. Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> > texnote@xxxxxxxxx
> writes:
> >
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > According to the ebay description of the Tecsun 
> PL-300WT (by the seller
> > "liypn"), this radio uses the Silicon Labs Si4737
> DSP  chip which can only
> > demodulate MW, FM, and the Weather Band. See slide 12
> of
> > https://www.silabs.com/Marcom%20Documents/Resources/Si473x_Presentation.pdf
> > and
> > https://www.silabs.com/products/audiovideo/amfmreceivers/Pages/Si473637.aspx
> >
> > If  liypn's information is correct (verified by
> opening the radio up and
> > locating  the Silicon Labs chip), Tecsun must use
> this chip for MW/FM, and
> > a
> > separate  non-DSP single or dual conversion
> demodulator/tuner with much
> > poorer  selectivity and sensitivity for
> shortwave.
> >
> > For shortwave enthusiasts,  it will be
> interesting to see which one of the
> > forthcoming DSP radios from  Tecsun use the
> Si4734 or Si4735 chips, which
> > demodulate MW, FM, and  SW.
> >
> > In terms of price, the Si4737 chip starts at $3.06 in
> quantities of  10K;
> > the Si4734/35 starts at $3.27 in quantities of 
> 10K.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > --- On Mon, 6/1/09, D1028Gary@xxxxxxx 
> <D1028Gary@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: D1028Gary@xxxxxxx 
> <D1028Gary@xxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [IRCA] Tecsun PL-300WT-- A Sizzler 
> on AM & FM, A Fizzler on LW
> > and SW
> >> To: irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
> am@xxxxxxxxxxx,
> >> ultralightdx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> > odxa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>  Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:45 PM
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >>  Although evidence indicates that a huge
> ordering boom has
> >> started for  the
> >> DSP-enhanced Tecsun PL-300WT Ultralight radio, for
> those  of
> >> you still on the
> >>  fence about this innovative pocket 
> radio, some further
> >> information may be
> >> of   interest.
> >>
> >> Tecsun's primary focus in developing this 
> breakthrough
> >> model appears to
> >> have been in transforming  the AM and FM
> circuitry to set
> >> new standards of
> >>  weak-signal performance, and with
> superlative sensitivity
> >> and  selectivity  in
> >> both bands, they appear to have accomplished 
> their purpose.
> >> However, the
> >> model does have other bands  included in the
> package, which
> >> frankly appear to
> >> have  been neglected, and border on the
> substandard.
> >>
> >> The  Longwave band (153-513 kHz) of the
> PL-300WT  was
> >> thoroughly  searched
> >> for any possible signals at local sunset,
> without   any
> >> results. This is not
> >> unusual for small portables with LW 
> capability, but
> >> in  most cases, one or two
> >> of the  strongest beacons will at least make
> an
> >> appearance  at sunset.
> >>
> >> The Shortwave bands of the PL-300WT are filled
> with  local
> >> MW station spurs,
> >>  and mixing products. The signal  of
> local KSUH-1450 has a
> >> "coverage" of
> >> about 6  Mhz on  the Tecsun's shortwave
> bands, from 9.5
> >> Mhz to 15.5 Mhz. WWV on
> >> 10 Mhz is  really just a mixing product with
> KSUH.
> >>  Legitimate SW stations
> >> have anemic  signal levels, to the
> point  of being
> >> crowded out by the MW spurs.
> >>  The Tropical Band  is especially bad,
> with a sorry
> >> collection of MW
> >>  station spurs and mixing products
> overpowering any
> >> legitimate   stations.
> >>
> >> Of course the argument could be made that
> for  a $50
> >> receiver, Tecsun has
> >> already provided an  outstanding value with
> the superlative,
> >> DSP-enhanced
> >>  reception on the AM and FM bands. The
> puzzling aspect is
> >> why Tecsun  would
> >> include such dreadful LW and SW sections in a
> model  which
> >> is otherwise so
> >> superb. In summary, if LW or SW  reception is
> your top
> >> priority in a  portable, my
> >> strong  recommendation would be to avoid the
> PL-300WT,
> >> despite its
> >> breakthrough DSP capabilities.
> >>
> >> 73, Gary  DeBock
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  **************An Excellent Credit Score is
> 750. See Yours
> >> in Just 2  Easy
> >> Steps!
> >>
> > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585042x1201462767/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jun
> >>  eExcfooterNO62)
> >> 
> _______________________________________________
> >> IRCA mailing  list
> >> IRCA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>  http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> >>
> >> Opinions  expressed in messages on this
> mailing list are
> >> those of the original  contributors and do
> not necessarily
> >> reflect the opinion of the IRCA,  its
> editors, publishing
> >> staff, or officers
> >>
> >> For more  information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> >>
> >> To Post a message:  irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > IRCA mailing  list
> > IRCA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> >
> > Opinions  expressed in messages on this mailing
> list are those of the
> > original  contributors and do not necessarily
> reflect the opinion of the
> > IRCA,
> > its  editors, publishing staff, or officers
> >
> > For more information:  http://www.ircaonline.org
> >
> > To Post a message:  irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See
> Yours in Just 2 Easy
> > Steps!
> > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585042x1201462767/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jun
> > eExcfooterNO62)
> > _______________________________________________
> > IRCA mailing list
> > IRCA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> >
> > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list
> are those of the
> > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect
> the opinion of the
> > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> >
> > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> >
> > To Post a message: irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> IRCA mailing list
> IRCA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> 
> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are
> those of the original contributors and do not necessarily
> reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing
> staff, or officers
> 
> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> 
> To Post a message: irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 


      

_______________________________________________
IRCA mailing list
IRCA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca

Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers

For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org

To Post a message: irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx