[IRCA] Fw: failure notice

["Art Blair" <artngwen@xxxxxxxxxx>]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brent Taylor" <btaylor@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Art Blair'" <artngwen@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "'Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America'" 
<irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:36 AM
Subject: RE: failure notice


> Thanks, Art.
>
> The weirdness is that the senders are geting the bounce messages, and not
> just the IRCA list bot itself.  The "failure to establish SMTP connection"
> is really a server-to-server issue and not an indication of an address 
> being
> bad or out of date.  It looks to me like a problem with the "big Internet"
> and not particularly with any one user or account.
>
> The "Sorry, I wasn't able to establish an SMTP connection." message is the
> golden clue that means that the worldnet.att.net server was losing its
> connection from trueswitch.  If the message is to be believed then it's 
> not
> a user issue at all.
>
> It's a good illustration why headers are vital in diagnosing this stuff.
> Thanks to Art for providing an example.
>
> Brent Taylor
> Doaktown, NB
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Art Blair [mailto:artngwen@xxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: February 21, 2006 23:21 PM
>> To: Brent Taylor
>> Subject: Fw: failure notice
>>
>> Brent,
>> FYI.
>> Art...
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <MAILER-DAEMON@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <artngwen@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:29 PM
>> Subject: failure notice
>>
>>
>> > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.trueswitch.com.
>> > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
>> > addresses.
>> > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>> >
>> > <jyld123x@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> > Sorry, I wasn't able to establish an SMTP connection. (#4.4.1)
>> > I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the
>> queue too long.
>
> 


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