Re: [Swprograms] RNW to end shortwave usage to North America as ofthe B-08 schedule change

["Scott Royall" <royall@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Kevin, I hear ya, but your message seems more a lament about the lost
romance of our youth. There are more than a few people who lament the loss
of sail and horse as primary technologies. In some ways, they aren't wrong
either. However, while nostalgia affects us all, reality seems immune to it.
Reality doesn't really care how we remember things, because it truly does
march to its own drum.

As much as it may be a cliché, the world as we know it does depend on
digitalization. I know, that's not an easy idea for some to accept, but
there are also people like me who basically would not even exist publicly
without digitalization. For that matter, I respectfully submit that you've
forgotten how isolated your world was beforehand. You could dial in official
and unofficial information from very expensive sources, but then what?
Sharing your views and opinions with anyone beyond immediate contact
involved weeks at least.

Oh yes, the internet is going to be superseded, but by something even more
pervasive and omnipresent. Analog has its uses, definitely. I use it
whenever I key up my IC706, but the technology that actually allows me to
talk is as digital as it gets! You might say, "That's different," but no,
it's really not. Digitalization is a process, and it's not going away. I
think that you are alluding to a post-apocalyptic situation, where
technology would be effectively rolled back. I submit that you and I
probably won't be around in that case. We most certainly won't be casually
discussing it over the internet.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:swprograms-bounces@hard-core-
> dx.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Anderson
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 11:58 AM
> To: Shortwave programming discussion
> Subject: Re: [Swprograms] RNW to end shortwave usage to North America as
ofthe B-08
> schedule change
>
> Sandy,
> To me it is not the "romance" of radio (although I feel that also), but a
practicality and its
> simplistic/low-cost nature for the recipient.  Unfortunately it is the
high costs on the
> transmission side that are driving these decisions to cut broadcasts.
>
> Strange at it may sound when I say it, I actually consider the future of
Internet and
> computers for the average person to be short term and dated, to be
reversed within my
> remaining lifetime even here in the U.S.  It will be replaced by something
not yet more
> technological, but the opposite, in a return to less technological means
of communications,
> for which basic analogue radio will be well suited again.  And this will
be due to other
> forces, also economic in nature, but driven more by resources (or I should
say the lack of),
> rising costs, and "security."  I just hope international radio hangs on to
see that day.
> Otherwise a very huge vacuum will develop for the average person in
getting international
> news and programming.
>
> Kevin Anderson
>
> --- On Fri, 9/19/08, Sandy Finlayson <sfinlayson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > From: Sandy Finlayson <sfinlayson@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [Swprograms] RNW to end shortwave usage to North America as
ofthe B-
> 08 schedule change
> > To: "Shortwave programming discussion" <swprograms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 11:10 AM
> > It's hard to argue that there is much life left in main
> > stream English
> > language short wave service at least in this part of the
> > world.  I do
> > miss the romance of radio, but have reluctantly joined the
> > ranks of the
> > podcast/webcast generation.
> >
> > SF
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > Mr. Sandy Finlayson
> > Philadelphia, PA
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Kevin Anderson
> > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:04 PM
> > To: Shortwave programming discussion
> > Subject: Re: [Swprograms] RNW to end shortwave usage to
> > North America as
> > ofthe B-08 schedule change
> >
> > Now I know shortwave is dead.  The one international
> > broadcaster who
> > argued most vehemently for keeping shortwave an option for
> > all.  A very
> > sad announcement indeed, because I am generally not a
> > podcast or online
> > listener, believing still in the medium of over-the-air
> > radio (and not
> > necessarily just in the broadcastable nature of spoken word
> > programming,
> > which I do believe in as well).  It puts on its head the
> > nature of who
> > is "privileged" in the world - I almost now want
> > to consider the
> > "privileged" to be the Indonesian, Pacific
> > Islander, Andean highlander,
> > or African resident who can still rely on "radio"
> > as radio.
> >
> > Kevin Anderson
> >
> > --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Richard Cuff <rdcuff@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Richard Cuff <rdcuff@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: [Swprograms] RNW to end shortwave usage to
> > North America as
> > of the B-08 schedule change
> > > To: "Shortwave programming discussion"
> > <swprograms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > odxa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "naswa"
> > <NASWA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 12:40 PM
> > > Sadly, Radio Netherlands has announced the end of
> > shortwave
> > > to North
> > > America as of the end of October.
> > >
> > > Richard Cuff / Allentown, PA  USA
> >
> >
> >
> >
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