Re: [Swprograms] R. Marti

["Scott Royall" <royall@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The problem is you and Bob apparently can't recognize a good thing even when
it French-kisses you. ;/

Ok, I stated that the situation was probably a case of mutual benefit. For
R. Marti, the benefits would come from pleasing its target audience. If you
do that often enough, your audience tends to increase and become more
tolerant of your message. That doesn't mean they will agree with your
politics, but they won't dismiss you quite as quickly as before.

-----Original Message-----
From: swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Figliozzi
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 8:47 PM
To: Shortwave programming discussion
Subject: Re: [Swprograms] R. Marti

Well, I have to admit I'm lost as to your point, Scott.  Bob just 
stated that he felt that Marti was a colossal waste of resources due to 
jamming.  How does the fact that one baseball game got through change 
or undermine that fact?  I thought his example underlined his point.  
The only time Marti *was* useful was when it broadcast a baseball game 
and it wasn't jammed. Otherwise....like I said--a colossal waste.

Your other point--about "avowed" enemies sometimes collaborating, I do 
get.  And it is indeed interesting when that happens.  If only it would 
happen more often.

John Figliozzi

On May 30, 2005, at 7:29 PM, Scott Royall wrote:

> I would grant that ANY broadcaster oriented toward a goal so specific 
> as
> putting Castro on welfare will always be hard-pressed to justify 
> themselves.
> Yet, my response was to highlight the fact that your example 
> undermined your
> point. Instead of waste, your example was one of those rare and 
> priceless
> occasions when the actual front-line cold warriors held an impromptu 
> truce
> for everyone's benefit! Marti ops pulled the normal strident spots 
> (which
> explained the repeating jingle) and jamming ops arranged a little 
> "accident"
> so they could hear what was hopefully a good game. End result: mutual
> benefit. I'm sure you are aware of the Cuban passion for Baseball, no?
>
> And, lest you doubt that such incidents occur, let me direct you to the
> piece R. Nederlands did a few years back on Soviet jammers. It turns 
> out
> that such accidents were not uncommon. Management--if it 
> noticed--didn't get
> too upset because the particular unjammed broadcast was useful for them
> also.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rmonty23
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 4:00 PM
> To: Shortwave programming discussion
> Subject: Re: [Swprograms] R. Marti
>
> No, not at all but my point being its such a waste of money to 
> continue with
>
> it.  But we tax payers don't really have a choice in the matter.
> Bob Montgomery
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Royall" <royall@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'Shortwave programming discussion'" <swprograms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 10:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Swprograms] R. Marti
>
>
>> Do you think only Marti gets jammed?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rmonty23
>> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 6:38 PM
>> To: Shortwave programming discussion
>> Subject: Re: [Swprograms] R. Marti
>>
>> I have this think for R. Marti which in my opinion is the biggest 
>> waste of
>> my tax dollars there is.  Considering that VOA has suffered cut backs 
>> the
>> way they have yet Marti seems to be going strong.  Funny thing is this
>> past
>> week I noticed that Marti was running a baseball game between Boston 
>> Red
>> Sox
>>
>> and NY Yanks and the jammers where turned off.  To waste the time 
>> usually
>> spent by radio and tv adverts, Marti kept playing this jingle over and
>> over
>> till the game was resumed.  When the game was over, the jammers where
>> turned
>>
>> back on.  What a rip.
>>
>> Maybe I have missed the skinny on Radio Marti because I don't speak 
>> the
>> language but I just can't see its purpose if jammed.  It sure screws 
>> up
>> the
>> shortwave band with the broad band jammers used by the Cubans.
>>
>> Bob Montgomery
>>
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