[Swprograms] Re: CBC Magic?? (Was: OT: FM, Sirius and RCI)

Subject: [Swprograms] Re: CBC Magic?? (Was: OT: FM, Sirius and RCI)
From: "Richard Cuff" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:56:37 -0500
Keep in mind that much of the RCI discussion here centered around lousy 
frequency and schedule decisions this season for late afternoon / early 
listening sessions.

By comparison, RA isn't nearly as audible that time of day, or during most 
"prime time" early evening listening hours, for that matter.

I am also particularly and selfishly interested in CBC and Canadian affairs 
since my paternal grandparents were Canadian.  I grew up with Southern 
Ontario media offering welcome choices in the pre-cable TV days.  We lived 
fewer than 10 miles from 3 of Buffalo's commercial TV stations so we could 
have watched them with an outdoor aerial pointed anywhere; Buffalo's other 
commercial and public TV station antennas happened to be in the same 
direction as CHCH, CBLT and CFTO, so -- by joyous coincidence -- we were 
able to see Canadian TV clearly.  Not that it was necessarily better than 
domestic fare -- in fact, most of it WAS domestic US fare, just on a 
different times.

Add to that mix the fact that CBL AM 740 came in loud and clear; especially 
in the pre-NPR days, it was a clear alternative to domestic radio.

By comparison, I agree -- enthusiastically -- that much of RN's output is 
clearly superior to that of the CBC -- in part, because RN has a series of 
15- and 30-minute programs that cover a particular topic week in, week 
out -- so you know what's coming and when.

RN also doesn't merit as much commentary here because, frankly, their 
programming is eminently accesible on-demand.  That's more than I can say 
for some CBC programming.

It seems to be a paradox that we in other countries hold domestic public 
service broadcasters in higher esteem than do residents of those countries. 
I was chatting with two Indian co-workers regarding All India Radio's 
domestic services a few weeks back; neither of my co-workers listened 
regularly to AIR, nor did their friends.

So...what do you Canadians think about the USA's NPR programming?

Richard Cuff / Allentown, PA  USA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Figliozzi" <jfiglio1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Shortwave programming discussion" <swprograms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:38 PM
Subject: [Swprograms] Re: CBC Magic?? (Was: OT: FM, Sirius and RCI)


<snip>

> In short, I think CBC gets exalted by comparison with its close in
> competition. (Also, some of the excitement stemmed from the eventual
> arrival of CBC Radio One on Sirius.)  But-heh, Peter--I agree with your
> assessment of ABC-RA programming.  That's why I post those programming
> notes twice or three times a week.  :-))  Think it''ll ever catch on?
>
> John Figliozzi
> Halfmoon, NY
>
>
> On Monday, January 24, 2005, at 02:59  PM, Peter Bowen wrote:
>
>> I have read lots of messages on this list about CBC programmes. It
>> seems that lots of people like them. Very strange....
>>
>> Sure, CBC has some very good programmes (e.g., "The Sunday Edition"),
>> but the vast majority of its output is quite mediocre (e.g., "As It
>> Happens", "DNTO", "Bunny Watson" ,etc.). And some programmes are
>> quite awful, in fact (e.g., "The Roundup", which started life as a
>> pretty good offering several years ago).
>>
>> So why in the world is such stuff so popular??
>>
>> And why do far better shows (e.g., lots of the stuff from Radio
>> National) get almost no mention on this list?
>>
>> 73,
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  --- rmonty23 <rmonty23@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> I found it.  88.1 WNJN out of Bridgeton, NJ, at 9 pm, one hour of
>>> As it
>>> happens.  I finally managed to remember to check the FM band for
>>> CBC.
>>> Appears to be a special program of "As it Happens" for American
>>> Media in the
>>> US.  Still perfer shortwave.
>>> Bob Montgomery
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Richard Cuff" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfiglio1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Shortwave programming discussion"
>>> <swprograms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:43 AM
>>> Subject: Re: OT: FM,Sirius and RCI (was: Re: [Swprograms] RCI
>>> Receptionagain...)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ah yes -- Sundays 1030 PM, Mondays 330 AM, all times ET
>>>>
>>>> RDC
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <jfiglio1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "Shortwave programming discussion"
>>> <swprograms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:28 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: OT: FM, Sirius and RCI (was: Re: [Swprograms] RCI
>>>> Receptionagain...)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> PRI World also carries CBC's "Dispatches"...
>>>>>
>>>>> John Figliozzi
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Richard Cuff <richard@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:04 am
>>>>> Subject: OT:  FM, Sirius and RCI (was: Re: [Swprograms] RCI
>>> Reception
>>>>> again...)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing for the Philly region shows up for RCI relays when
>>> digging
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> PublicRadioFan.com.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another option to consider -- even now -- is a Sirius
>>> satellite
>>>>>> radio
>>>>>> subscription.  Yes, I know it's an expensive way to get RCI
>>>>>> programming, but
>>>>>> several RCI programs are sprinkled in the "PRI World" channel.
>>>  An
>>>>>> hour of
>>>>>> "As It Happens" does appear in prime time:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (all times ET)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideas -- Weekdays 6 AM and 12 Noon
>>>>>> AIH -- Weekdays 7 PM and Tues-Sat 12 AM (only one hour)
>>>>>> DNTO -- Saturdays 1 PM and Sundays 12 AM
>>>>>> Quirks & Quarks -- Sundays 7 AM
>>>>>> Sunday Edition -- Sundays 9 AM and 12 Noon (two complete
>>> cycles,
>>>>>> it appears)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plus, if Sirius gets CRTC approval to offer its services in
>>>>>> Canada, we in
>>>>>> the USA will be able to listen to Radio One 24/7.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Cuff / Allentown, PA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Sandy Finlayson" <SFinlayson@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: "Shortwave programming discussion"
>>> <swprograms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:34 AM
>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Swprograms] RCI Reception again...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think either of the NPR stations in Philly relay AIH.
>>>  It
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> available in New Jersey but I can't pick up any of the NJ
>>>>>> stations from my
>>>>>>> location in the Philly suburbs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was encouraged by the RCI response that they are
>>> considering a
>>>>>> return to
>>>>>>> the earlier broadcast for next winter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sandy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of rmonty23
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 8:41 AM
>>>>>>> To: Shortwave programming discussion
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Swprograms] RCI Reception again...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 15180 from 2000-2300 is to be in EE but I have to say that
>>> it is
>>>>>> a bit of
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> challenge most evenings to hear this one. According to the
>>> info
>>>>>> I have the
>>>>>>> antenna is beamed to the south and I don't know why the
>>>>>> reception here
>>>>>>> near
>>>>>>> Philly is so poor.  I wish 9625 CBC would make a change to
>>> their
>>>>>> antenna> system as it seems more reliable at times.  Of course
>>> you
>>>>>> can turn to FM
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> have a listen in the Philly area as one of the stations at
>>> the
>>>>>> lower end
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the band relays the broadcast.  88.9 or something, I rarely
>>>>>> listen to FM
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the early evening so not sure of the correct freq.  Try
>>> around 8 pm
>>>>>>> Bob Montgomery
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Sandy Finlayson" <SFinlayson@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: "Shortwave programming discussion"
>>> <swprograms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 3:26 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Swprograms] RCI Reception again...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have been slow with this but have now sent an email to
>>> RCI.
>>>>>> If I hear
>>>>>>> anything I will let you know.  Are others on the east coast
>>>>>> still having
>>>>>>> trouble hearing RCI in the evenings?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sandy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> [swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Richard
>>> Cuff
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:41 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Shortwave programming discussion
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Swprograms] RCI Reception again...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I haven't seen or heard anything...would suggest you get in
>>>>>> touch with
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>> Westenhaver who manages Audience Relations for RCi -- Bill
>>> is
>>>>>> pretty well
>>>>>>>> connected in the organization.  His e-mail is
>>> info@xxxxxxxxx,
>>>>>> which maps
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> Westenhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Richard Cuff / Allentown, PA  USA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Sandy Finlayson" <SFinlayson@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: "Shortwave programming discussion"
>>> <swprograms@hard-core-
>>>>>> dx.com>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:00 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Swprograms] RCI Reception again...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Happy New Year to Everyone:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Has there been any news about possible changes to RCI
>>>>>> frequencies for
>>>>>>>> their evening broadcasts to North America.  Their
>>> broadcasts remain
>>>>>>>> virtually inaudible where I live, just outside of
>>> Philadelphia.
>>>>>> It is a
>>>>>>>> real shame that RCI's excellent programs are going unheard.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sandy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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