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Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] KLIM 1120



The critical hours is for 3kw non directional, not directional as i
thoughht from a second site clsoer to Limon

Paul

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Patrick Martin <mwdxer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I guess KLIM would need to protect UT as well as OR to the West.
>
>
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
>
> > Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 13:04:29 -0800
> > From: walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx
> > To: amradiolog@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] KLIM 1120
> > CC: mwdxer1@xxxxxxxxx; ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; am@xxxxxxxxxxx;
> irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > KLIM currently has special temporary authority for 100 watts from a slant
> > wire antenna at a site on 6th street in Limon with a CP for no city of
> > license change but 50kw/2 towers day and 3kw/2 towers critical hours
> from a
> > site about 20 miles west and slightly southwest of Limon.
> >
> > Catholic Radio Network owns it now.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> > walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > KLIM 1120 was also co owned with KIIQ 93.7 which was licensed for 1kw
> at
> > > like -300 feet, it's now owned by someone else as  KIIQ Deer Trail, CO
> > > licensed for 25kw at 212  meters from a tower9 miles N 4 miles
> northwest of
> > > Limon. I doubt, highly doubt it's on either, even though it's licensed.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Wayne Heinen <amradiolog@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I think theyâd turn it on one day a year and tell the FCC about it
> > >> something like 10 watts & a dipoleâ  It was a semi local regular here
> for
> > >> the years that is was on.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 73
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Wayne Heinen
> > >>
> > >> Editor AM Radio Log
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> *From:* am-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:am-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> > >> Behalf Of *Paul B. Walker, Jr.
> > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 20, 2016 12:38 PM
> > >> *To:* Patrick Martin
> > >> *Cc:* ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; am@xxxxxxxxxxx; Mailing list for the
> > >> International Radio Club of America
> > >> *Subject:* Re: [NRC-AM] KLIM 1120
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The station has been off the air for years, if not a decade or more
> and
> > >> has only come back for a few days a year to save the license from
> permanent
> > >> deletion.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> It once had a Permit to go from 250W NOn directional to 25kw 3 towers
> and
> > >> relicense to Black Forest but that expired unbuilt.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The station was sold to a catholic group a few months ago.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wednesday, April 20, 2016, Patrick Martin <mwdxer1@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I have not heard the station in years. I QSL'd them back in Sept 1985.
> > >> Logged them at 6:32 AM, Mountain time briefly over KPNW, if I remember
> > >> correctly, but it has been a long time ago. A nice verie letter by
> > >> Linda Hawthorne, manager. I also have a bumper sticker. At that time
> > >> they were located at 165 E Avenue in Limon.
> > >>
> > >> Patrick
> > >>
> > >> On 4/20/16, Rick Dau <drummer1965us@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > An interesting thread going on right now about KLIM, a station that
> I
> > >> > honestly never held out much hope for ever picking up.  Wasn't this
> > >> station
> > >> > -- studios AND tower -- taken out when a tornado ravaged Limon in
> June
> > >> of
> > >> > 1990?
> > >> >
> > >> > 73,
> > >> > Rick Dau
> > >> > South Omaha, Nebraska  EN21af
> > >> >
> > >> > ________________________________
> > >> > From: ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Neil
> > >> Kazaross
> > >> > neilkaz58@xxxxxxxxx [ABDX] <ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 12:46 PM
> > >> > To: ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > Subject: Re: [ABDX] KLIM
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > About 8 years ago when visiting Denver I took a drive out to Limon
> and
> > >> there
> > >> > was no trace of KLIM.
> > >> >
> > >> > BTW when are they supposed to come back on?  73 KAZ
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Tim Hall
> > >> > TimHall1@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:TimHall1@xxxxxxxxx> [ABDX]
> > >> > <ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > I've never logged them from the Border Inn.  KANN-UT and KMOX-MO are
> > >> most
> > >> > common there, but KZSJ-CA, KPNW-OR and KTXW-TX have also been
> logged.
> > >> > Offhand I'm not sure if I've ever logged them on my trips to
> Colorado.
> > >> I'll
> > >> > have to dig up my notes from a very quick bandscan I did on top of
> > >> Pike's
> > >> > Peak in 2004.  They only let you stay up there about half an hour
> so I
> > >> > really had to hustle.  Wish I had a Perseus back then!
> > >> >
> > >> > 73 Tim
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Kit xkit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> > >> xkit@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > [ABDX] <ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > I have checked for KLIM a number of times when out that way and I
> can't
> > >> > remember ever hearing on in recent years.  Same with the FM that was
> > >> > licensed there, but the COL on it was recently changed to Deer Trail
> > >> and it
> > >> > is for sale.
> > >> >
> > >> > I noticed that about the discrepancy in the license info, but that
> is
> > >> > nothing new for the FCC.  You have to remember that it is the same
> > >> agency
> > >> > that has been licensing K calls east of the Mississippi, and W calls
> > >> west of
> > >> > the Mississippi in the past couple of decades, so no surprise they
> can't
> > >> > even get tech specs correct.
> > >> >
> > >> > If KLIM ever cranked up 50 KW at night in an emergency, KMOX would
> come
> > >> > unglued!
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ________________________________
> > >> > From: "Neil Kazaross neilkaz58@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:neilkaz58@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > >> [ABDX]"
> > >> > <ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > >> > To: "ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>"
> > >> > <ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > >> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 1:18 PM
> > >> > Subject: Re: [ABDX] KLIM
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > When was the last time KLIM was actually on the air?
> > >> >
> > >> > Interesting that while the FCC says ND days, they list a two tower
> > >> array so
> > >> > they certainly will be directional days.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > 1120 kHz Construction Permit Domestic Station Class: D Region 2
> Station
> > >> > Class (corresponds to W. Hemisphere): B Coordination Status:
> Canada: -
> > >> > Mexico: - Region 2: - File No: BP-20151029AUC Facility ID No.: 25185
> > >> CDBS
> > >> > Application ID No.: 1724002 39Â 12' 7.00 " N Latitude Power: 50.0
> > >> kilowatts
> > >> > (kW) Daytime 104Â 20' 44.00" W Longitude (NAD 27) ND2 -
> Non-directional
> > >> > Antenna: Different constants day and night RMS Standard: 2264.00
> mV/m
> > >> at 1
> > >> > kilometer RMS Theoretical: 2155.00 mV/m at 1 kilometer 2 towers in
> the
> > >> > directional array CDBS Ant. System ID: 129090 Tower information:
> > >> >      Tower
> > >> >      No.          Field
> > >> > Ratio     Phase
> > >> > (deg)    Spacing
> > >> > (deg)   Orientation
> > >> > (degrees)        Electrical
> > >> > Height (deg)     Twr
> > >> > Ref.    -No Top Loaded or Sectionalized Tower(s)-       Antenna
> > >> Structure
> > >> >  Registration Number
> > >> > (#0)    A       B       C       D
> > >> >       1 1.000   0.00    0.00    0.00    80.00   0               0.00
> > >> 0.00
> > >> >    0.00    0.00    <
> https://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/link2asrn?asrn=>
> > >> >       2 0.480   90.00   90.00   88.00   80.00   0               0.00
> > >> 0.00
> > >> >    0.00    0.00    <
> https://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/link2asrn?asrn=>
> > >> >
> > >> > I expect I'll be able to get them thru KMOX with 3 kW CH power on
> good
> > >> > sunset skip nights.  73 KAZ Barrington IL
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Kit xkit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> > >> xkit@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > [ABDX] <ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Little KLIM in Limon, CO is about to become a biggie.  Limon is a
> little
> > >> > town along I 70 about 100 mi. east of Denver.  KLIM is their little
> 250
> > >> watt
> > >> > daytimer on 1120.  Authorization was just granted today for KLIM to
> > >> increase
> > >> > to 50 KW Day with a 2 tower array, and 3 KW ND for critical hours.
> They
> > >> > will still be a daytimer.  Their new 50 KW Day coverage will give
> them a
> > >> > city grade signal over Denver, Colorado Springs, and Pueblo.  They
> will
> > >> also
> > >> > have secondary coverage over Fort Collins.  This will be a good one
> to
> > >> > listen for around sunrise and sunset when they get it fired up.
> > >> >
> > >> >         73,
> > >> >
> > >> >         Kit
> > >> >         W5KAT
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > __._,_.___
> > >> > ________________________________
> > >> > Posted by: Neil Kazaross <neilkaz58@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > ________________________________
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