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KULF
Dennis, yes.
I wonder about the relationship around access and FCC rules and regulations.
Operating beyond hours, no IDs. No remote control? It doesn't seem that a
single tower 250 Watter would be anything but simple to remote.
It looks like the studio is not at the transmitter site. Just a strange
situation.
Thanks.
Doc.
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:53:47 -0800
From: Dennis Gibson <wb6tnb@xxxxxxxxx>
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When KULF was sold three years ago the asset purchase agreement said it was
going to have to move its transmitter site. There's no CP to move so perhaps
there's a dispute over whether the station has the right to have access to
the site.
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> On Jan 16, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Dr. Tom Gruis <donnatom@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
> I see an item on one of my FB lists that KULF 1090 in Bellville, TX is
> running open carrier day and night. And it could be "was" by now.
> Apparently there is a dispute over access. That is all I know.
>
>
>
> Could be interesting.
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> 73.
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> Doc.
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 00:00:12 +0000
From: Walter Salmaniw <canswl@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] DX'ing from a new location, AGAIN!
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A DX angle, Paul. Re SW: no one targets Alaska, so everything you hear
will be off-beam. Even comparing Victoria to Masset, which is 1000 km or
less to the NW, I hear a big difference in signal strength: much weaker in
Masset. Of course, I have no noise there, so S/N is much better than down
hear, and I've heard plenty of stations not heard in Victoria. Do try for
India, Pakistan, Korea, etc that often come in very well in Masset.
Mongolia, too. On MW, if things are not auroral, I expect you to hear
Japan, Korea, and China fairly well in the mornings. If A/K indices are
really good, and no aurora at all, try for over the pole for MW DX during
darkness paths to Europe and Central Asia. I often hear them well, but
generally the last few years have not been kind for trans-Polar reception.
I predict that in a couple of years, as we approach solar minimum, you
should hear Europe and central Asia well. I recall hearing many Iranian MW
stations during the afternoon in winter from Masset. A bell weather station
for over the pole MW is Radio Farda on 1575. If it's open, anything is
possible. For TP reception, always check the Japanese first tier stations
on 594, 747, 774 especially, and Korea on 1566 and occasionally VOA Thailand
on 1575. We're in the winter doldrums for TP reception, though, so not
surprising that you may not hear much. On SW, do try for Vancouver 6160.
In booms into Masset, so should propagate well to Galena with CBC Vancouver
programming. All at 1 kW or less. There you go!
Walt
PS: Also, compared to the eastern part of NA, SW signals on the west coast
are a fraction of theirs, too!
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 11:51 PM, Ira Elbert New III <ien3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> It'll be interesting to read what you hear from up there.
>
> I also find it interesting that I met you that one time in South
> Carolina and now you're about as far from there you can get and still
> be in the United States. :-) I still have the same car. Maybe I'll
> drive up one day... ;-)
>
> Bert
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 16, 2016, at 6:26 PM, "Patrick Martin" <mwdxer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> > It reminds me of Whittier AK in the 50s when we lived there. A small
> airport and train that went from Portage Junction to Whittier. I guess
> you can drive to Whittier now. But there wasn't much there either. My
> Dad worked for the Columbia Lumber Company in those days. We lived in
> a lot of smaller towns. Living in Anchorage in the Winter was a plus
> as it was a larger town with stores. The coldest I have been in was
> -38F in Anchorage in 1958, if I remember correctly. At my age now, I
> would not like it. I do remember living in Seward in the 1960s, much
> of the time in the Winter when I wasn't in school, I was either doing
> homework or DXing/QSLing. There wasn't a lot more to do. Of course
> shoveling of snow so my father could get out to go to work in the morning.
I do not miss that. hi.
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:52:56 -0900
> >> From: walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx
> >> To: irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] DX'ing from a new location, AGAIN!
> >>
> >> It's all relative.... The weather and prices are what you make of it..
> >> Either deal with it or you don't make it. It's gotten down to -17
> below so
> >> far.
> >>
> >> The station is in town .. We have a local "grocery store", a liquor
> store
> >> with some food....a bar, a post office, a cafe and that's about it
> >> in
> terms
> >> of shops.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Saturday, January 16, 2016, Patrick Martin <mwdxer@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Paul,
> >>>
> >>> I am sure prices in Alaska is expensive, especially in an small
> >>> town
> like
> >>> Galena. Even though I have never been there, I have looked at
> >>> pictures
> of
> >>> the town through the years. Even though we moved from AK in 1967,
> >>> it
> has
> >>> always been an interest of mine.I was going to ask you, how you
> >>> find
> the
> >>> weather, but you have lived in some cold areas already. So
> >>> probably
> having
> >>> snow on the ground it not a surprise to you. What kind of stores
> >>> are
> there?
> >>> Probably I would guess, not at of variety. Is KIYU right in town?
> Again, I
> >>> do look forward in your reports.
> >>> Take care.
> >>>
> >>> Patrick
> >>>
> >>> Patrick Martin
> >>> Seaside OR
> >>> KGED QSL Manager
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:34:20 -0900
> >>>> From: walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>
> >>>> To: mwdxer1@xxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DX'ing from a new location, AGAIN!
> >>>> CC: dxld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>; am@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <javascript:;>;
> >>> irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>; swl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <javascript:;>;
> >>> mwdx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course, when the AM gets back on and we get programming and
> >>> transmission
> >>>> stuff straightened out, I am sure a DX test can be worked out!
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, KIYU was once part of a network with KDKO 870 McGrath and
> >>>> KZPA
> 900
> >>>> Fort Yukon, The KSKO-AM license has been turned in and deleted,
> >>>> they
> are
> >>> FM
> >>>> only now.
> >>>>
> >>>> I wil leventually get settled and find some quiet place to do
> >>>> some
> >>> DX'ing..
> >>>> My studio window and my apartment window are only 500 feet from
> >>>> the
> Yukon
> >>>> River.
> >>>>
> >>>> Living here isn't as much of a shock to my system as some might
> think, Im
> >>>> used to rural remote locations.. I just have to get used to
> >>>> planning
> >>> ahead
> >>>> and ordering extra of a certain item online and plan on taking it
> longer
> >>> to
> >>>> get here.. plsu some stuff bought in town is super expensive.
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul
> >>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Patrick Martin
> >>>>> <mwdxer1@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Paul,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wow! What a switch!!! I lived in AK from 1955-67. I started to
> >>>>> DX in Seward in 1962. It was a different world on what I have
> >>>>> heard here. I have never been to Galena, but it is very remote.
> >>>>> I have most of the Alaskans heard and QSL's, but KIYU 910 I have
> >>>>> not heard. At one time KIYU was part of a network of three
> >>>>> educational stations in AK with Fort Yukon and McGraph. Those
> >>>>> two I have heard & QSL'd. When your AM gets back on, any chance
> >>>>> of a DX Test? I would think it will take a bit to used to living
> >>>>> in such a remote area as the only way out is by plane. I wish
> >>>>> you good luck and look forward to your DX reports. We have not
> >>>>> had an active DXer in AK for years. Infact I cannot remember the
last time we had one.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 1/16/16, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>> I have mvoed, again. This time I am in Galena, Alaska. It's a
> >>> village of
> >>>>>> 500 people about 300 miles west of Fairbanks and 300 miles east
> >>>>>> of
> >>> Nome.
> >>>>>> I'm Program Director for Big River Public Broadcasting,
> >>> Incorporated's
> >>>>>> "Community Radio For Alaska" KIYU. The AM is off but will be
> >>>>>> back on
> >>>>> soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We currently operate a network of about 8 low powered (100 watt
> >>> class d)
> >>>>> FM
> >>>>>> signals. We run some NPR programming but also oldies music and
> >>>>>> local
> >>> or
> >>>>>> regional programming.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I haven't had time to set up a long wire or other antenna yet
> >>>>>> but
> >>> using
> >>>>> my
> >>>>>> Sangean ATS909X up here, there's a HIGH level of electrical
> >>>>>> noise on
> >>> the
> >>>>>> property.. we also have a few FM transmitters an a 10 watt low
> >>>>>> power digital tv transmitter.. all 20 feet above my head.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I took my Sangean ATS909X to a piece of property across from
> >>>>>> the
> >>> radio
> >>>>>> station about 4pm one afternoon and using just the whip, I
> >>>>>> tuned
> >>> SW.. and
> >>>>>> also tuned AM (using just the ferrite bar type antenna in the
> radio).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I heard NOTHING on AM, not even the 25kw of KNOM 780 or 50kw or
> >>>>>> KICY
> >>> 850
> >>>>> or
> >>>>>> the 50kw of KJNP 1170.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I did hear "Esta Es Radio Habana Cuba" on one of their 11mhz
> >>>>> frequencies. I
> >>>>>> also heard China Radio International On the 11 or 13mhz bands
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>> somewhere
> >>>>>> in the 17mhz. I didn't hear WWV or WWVH.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Paul Walker
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:20:02 -0600
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] DX'ing from a new location, AGAIN!
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Paul,
I envy you young man. You?re having a life of travel and adventure. Even
better, it?s wrapped up in the magic of radio. Enjoy and let us know what
you hear from up there.
73,
Les N1LF
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> On Jan 16, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Ira Elbert New III <ien3@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> It'll be interesting to read what you hear from up there.
>
> I also find it interesting that I met you that one time in South
> Carolina and now you're about as far from there you can get and still
> be in the United States. :-) I still have the same car. Maybe I'll
> drive up one day... ;-)
>
> Bert
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 6:26 PM, "Patrick Martin" <mwdxer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It reminds me of Whittier AK in the 50s when we lived there. A small
airport and train that went from Portage Junction to Whittier. I guess you
can drive to Whittier now. But there wasn't much there either. My Dad worked
for the Columbia Lumber Company in those days. We lived in a lot of smaller
towns. Living in Anchorage in the Winter was a plus as it was a larger town
with stores. The coldest I have been in was -38F in Anchorage in 1958, if I
remember correctly. At my age now, I would not like it. I do remember living
in Seward in the 1960s, much of the time in the Winter when I wasn't in
school, I was either doing homework or DXing/QSLing. There wasn't a lot more
to do. Of course shoveling of snow so my father could get out to go to work
in the morning. I do not miss that. hi.
>>
>> Patrick Martin
>> Seaside OR
>> KGED QSL Manager
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:52:56 -0900
>>> From: walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] DX'ing from a new location, AGAIN!
>>>
>>> It's all relative.... The weather and prices are what you make of it..
>>> Either deal with it or you don't make it. It's gotten down to -17
>>> below so far.
>>>
>>> The station is in town .. We have a local "grocery store", a liquor
>>> store with some food....a bar, a post office, a cafe and that's
>>> about it in terms of shops.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 16, 2016, Patrick Martin <mwdxer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Paul,
>>>>
>>>> I am sure prices in Alaska is expensive, especially in an small
>>>> town like Galena. Even though I have never been there, I have
>>>> looked at pictures of the town through the years. Even though we
>>>> moved from AK in 1967, it has always been an interest of mine.I was
>>>> going to ask you, how you find the weather, but you have lived in
>>>> some cold areas already. So probably having snow on the ground it not a
surprise to you. What kind of stores are there?
>>>> Probably I would guess, not at of variety. Is KIYU right in town?
>>>> Again, I do look forward in your reports.
>>>> Take care.
>>>>
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>> Patrick Martin
>>>> Seaside OR
>>>> KGED QSL Manager
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:34:20 -0900
>>>>> From: walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>
>>>>> To: mwdxer1@xxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DX'ing from a new location, AGAIN!
>>>>> CC: dxld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>; am@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <javascript:;>;
>>>> irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>; swl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <javascript:;>; mwdx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, when the AM gets back on and we get programming and
>>>> transmission
>>>>> stuff straightened out, I am sure a DX test can be worked out!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, KIYU was once part of a network with KDKO 870 McGrath and
>>>>> KZPA 900 Fort Yukon, The KSKO-AM license has been turned in and
>>>>> deleted, they are
>>>> FM
>>>>> only now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wil leventually get settled and find some quiet place to do some
>>>> DX'ing..
>>>>> My studio window and my apartment window are only 500 feet from
>>>>> the Yukon River.
>>>>>
>>>>> Living here isn't as much of a shock to my system as some might
>>>>> think, Im used to rural remote locations.. I just have to get used
>>>>> to planning
>>>> ahead
>>>>> and ordering extra of a certain item online and plan on taking it
>>>>> longer
>>>> to
>>>>> get here.. plsu some stuff bought in town is super expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Patrick Martin
>>>>>> <mwdxer1@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow! What a switch!!! I lived in AK from 1955-67. I started to DX
>>>>>> in Seward in 1962. It was a different world on what I have heard
>>>>>> here. I have never been to Galena, but it is very remote. I have
>>>>>> most of the Alaskans heard and QSL's, but KIYU 910 I have not
>>>>>> heard. At one time KIYU was part of a network of three
>>>>>> educational stations in AK with Fort Yukon and McGraph. Those two
>>>>>> I have heard & QSL'd. When your AM gets back on, any chance of a
>>>>>> DX Test? I would think it will take a bit to used to living in
>>>>>> such a remote area as the only way out is by plane. I wish you
>>>>>> good luck and look forward to your DX reports. We have not had an
>>>>>> active DXer in AK for years. Infact I cannot remember the last time
we had one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/16/16, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I have mvoed, again. This time I am in Galena, Alaska. It's a
>>>> village of
>>>>>>> 500 people about 300 miles west of Fairbanks and 300 miles east
>>>>>>> of
>>>> Nome.
>>>>>>> I'm Program Director for Big River Public Broadcasting,
>>>> Incorporated's
>>>>>>> "Community Radio For Alaska" KIYU. The AM is off but will be
>>>>>>> back on
>>>>>> soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We currently operate a network of about 8 low powered (100 watt
>>>> class d)
>>>>>> FM
>>>>>>> signals. We run some NPR programming but also oldies music and
>>>>>>> local
>>>> or
>>>>>>> regional programming.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't had time to set up a long wire or other antenna yet
>>>>>>> but
>>>> using
>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> Sangean ATS909X up here, there's a HIGH level of electrical
>>>>>>> noise on
>>>> the
>>>>>>> property.. we also have a few FM transmitters an a 10 watt low
>>>>>>> power digital tv transmitter.. all 20 feet above my head.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I took my Sangean ATS909X to a piece of property across from the
>>>> radio
>>>>>>> station about 4pm one afternoon and using just the whip, I tuned
>>>> SW.. and
>>>>>>> also tuned AM (using just the ferrite bar type antenna in the
radio).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I heard NOTHING on AM, not even the 25kw of KNOM 780 or 50kw or
>>>>>>> KICY
>>>> 850
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> the 50kw of KJNP 1170.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did hear "Esta Es Radio Habana Cuba" on one of their 11mhz
>>>>>> frequencies. I
>>>>>>> also heard China Radio International On the 11 or 13mhz bands
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>> somewhere
>>>>>>> in the 17mhz. I didn't hear WWV or WWVH.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul Walker
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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