Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Double-Kaz antenna: Catches and comments
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Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Double-Kaz antenna: Catches and comments



Slowly. ...

Todd in Woodbury Mn
Sony ICF 2010, Toyota car radio
On Nov 30, 2013 2:15 PM, "Mark Durenberger Mobile" <Mark4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Todd: Thank YOU!  Hope things are going well for you...
>
>
>
> Mark Durenberger
> On the Road
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Forrest Skaine
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 9:25 AM
> To: IRCA Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Double-Kaz antenna: Catches and comments
>
> Mark,
> I always enjoy your posts.  The time and effort it takes to set-up, listen,
> break down and process, is a fantasy for me that you make happen. Thank you
> and all who are involved for the hard work.
>
> Todd in Woodbury Mn
> Sony ICF 2010, Toyota car radio
> On Nov 30, 2013 5:00 AM, "Mark Durenberger" <Mark4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Re-listening to the recordings, I have no idea why I labeled the 800 "ID"
>> as CKST.  In fact, there's a clear CHAB Moose Jaw ID a few seconds past
>> the
>> top of the hour.  Apologies....and thanks to Nigel Pimblett.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark Durenberger
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Mark Durenberger
>> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 9:25 PM
>> To: DX @NRC ; DX-IRCA ; Shafer Mike
>> Subject: [NRC-AM] Double-Kaz antenna: Catches and comments
>>
>> Three weeks ago we set up a Double-Kaz antenna on elevated land
>> overlooking
>> the Utah desert; right at the Colorado state line.  We oriented East-West
>> for the captures below.  The first report below lists SOME of the signals
>> from an EAST-facing deployment; the second list is with the antenna facing
>> WEST.   These report ignore stations closer than about 300 miles.
>>
>> 1.  FACING EAST:   After nulling out the backside (using KOAL-750 in Price
>> Utah) we report the following stations at 4 PM MST on 111013.  This is
>> just
>> a rough first pass with the Perseus SDR; we haven't dug into the tougher
>> channels yet, nor have we started looking into the GYs:
>>
>> 0570   WNAX  YANKTON, SD
>> 0650   KGAB   CHEYENNE, WY
>> 0750   KMMJ   GRAND ISLAND, NE
>> 0770   KATL  MILES CITY, MT
>> 0790   KFGO FARGO, ND
>> 0800   CKST  LANGLEY, BC
>> 0860   KKOW  PITTSBURG, KS
>> 0900   KJSK   COLUMBUS, NE
>> 0960   KFLN  BAKER, MT
>> 0980   KDSJ  DEADWOOD, SD
>> 1070   KATQ  PLENTYWOOD, MT
>> 1130   KBMR  BISMARCK, ND
>> 1140   KZMQ  GREYBULL, WY
>> 1150   KSEN  SHELBY, MT
>> 1220   KDDR  OAKES, ND
>> 1270   KIML  GILLETTE, WY
>> 1290   KMMM  PRATT, KS
>> 1320   KOLT  SCOTTSBLUFF, NE
>> 1330   KNSS  WICHITA, KS
>> 1350   KRNT  DES MOINES, IA
>> 1380   KOTA  RAPID CITY, SD
>> 1410   KGSO  WICHITA, KS
>> 1440   KMAJ  TOPEKA, KS
>> 1480   KQAM  WICHITA, KS
>> 1580   KAMI  COZAD, NE
>> 1590   KVGB  GREAT BEND, KS
>>
>> COMMENT:  The use of 750 in Price Utah as the 'noise' signal allowed us to
>> obtain a better-than-40 db null to the West.  There were literally NO
>> stations from the West on any channel, with the exception of a weak KSL
>> 1160, 50 kilowatts at 250 miles.
>>
>> 2.  THE NEXT LIST IS A COMPOSITE OF LOGGINGS MADE AT 5 PM, 6 PM AND 7 PM
>> MST...with the antenna facing West and using KOA Denver as the noise
>> signal
>> for nulling.  (We were able to take KOA right down into the noise floor.)
>>
>> 0540   KRXA  CARMEL VALLEY, CA
>> 0550   KUZZ  BAKERSFIELD, CA  AND LATER:  KFYI  PHOENIX, AZ
>> 0560   KSFO SAN FRANCISCO, CA  AND LATER:  KBLU  YUMA, AZ
>> 0570   KNRS  SALT LAKE CITY, UT
>> 0580   KMJ  FRESNO, CA
>> 0590   KSUB  CEDAR CITY, UT
>> 0600   KOGO  SAN DIEGO, CA
>> 0610   KAVL  LANCASTER, CO
>> 0620   KTAR  PHOENIX, AZ  (NULLING LOCAL KJOL EAST OF US)
>> 0630   KPLY  RENO, NV
>> 0670   KBOI  BOISE, ID (IN KBOI NULL)
>> 0690   XEWW  (BLOWTORCH ALL EVENING)
>> 0700   KALL  SALT LAKE CITY, UT (WLW STAYS NULLED OUT)
>> 0710   KFIA  CARMICHAEL, CA  (AT 1 KILOWATT!)
>> 0720   KDWN  LAS VEGAS, NV  (IN THEIR NULL; WGN STAYS NULLED OUT)
>> 0750   KHWG  FALLON, NV  (250 WATTS)
>> 0780   KAZM  SEDONA, AZ (250 WATTS)...WHY NO KKOH?
>> 0790   KSPD  BOISE, ID AND KFPT  CLOVIS, CA
>> 0800   KBFP  BAKERSFIELD, CA
>> 0830   KNCO  GRASS VALLEY, CA  (NO WCCO)
>> 0840   KXNT  NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV AND KMPH  MODESTO, CA
>> 0850   NOISE AND WEAK SS...NO KOA!
>> 0870   KLSQ  WHITNEY, NV
>> 0880   KHAC  TSE BONITO, NM  (VERY LITTLE KRVN)
>> 0890   KYWN  MERIDIAN, ID
>> 0900   KBIF  FRESNO, CA
>> 0910   KKSF  OAKLAND, CA
>> 0920   KBAD  LAS VEGAS, NV
>> 0930   KYAK  YAKIMA, WA
>> 0940   KFIG + HET  FRESNO, CA
>> 0960   CFAC  CALGARY, AB
>> 0970   NOT COPIED...SOUNDED LIKE "KW__M"
>> 0980   KSVC  RICHFIELD, UT
>> 1000   KOMO  SEATTLE, WA
>> 1010   CBR  CALGARY, AB
>> 1020   KTNQ  LOS ANGELES, CA AND KCKN ROSWELL, NM
>> 1030   XEBCC  CUIDAD DEL CARMEN, MX
>> 1050   KTCT  SAN MATEO, CA
>> 1060   KKVV  LAS VEGAS, NV
>> 1080   KSCO  SANTA CRUZ, CA
>> 1090   XEPRS  RANCHO DEL MAR, MX (ANOTHER BLOWTORCH)
>> 1100   KWWN  LAS VEGAS, NV AND KFAX  SAN FRANCISCO, CA  (NULLING LOCAL
>> KNZZ
>> EAST OF US)
>> 1110   KBND  BEND, OR (NORMAL PEST IS KFAB)
>> 1120   KZSJ  SAN MARTIN, CA
>> 1130   KRDU  DINUBA, CA
>> 1140   KHTK  SACRAMENTO, CA  AND LATER KXST  LAS VEGAS, NV
>> 1150   KAGO  KLAMATH FALLS, OR
>> 1180   KOFI  KALISPELL, MT
>> 1190   KEX  PORTLAND, OR
>> 1200   KYAA  SOQUEL, CA
>> 1210   KHKR  WASHINGTON, UT
>> 1220   KDOW  PALO ALTO, CA
>> 1230   KLAV  LAS VEGAS, NV...THIS WAS AN ACCIDENT; WE HAVEN'T STARTED TO
>> CHASE GYs YET
>> 1250   KNEU  ROOSEVELT, UT
>> 1260   XEWI  (??)  PUERTO VALLARTA, MX AND LATER KSFB  SAN FRANCISCO, CA
>> 1280   KQLL  HENDERSON, NV
>> 1290   KCUB  TUCSON, AZ AND LATER KPAY  CHICO, CA
>> 1300   KCMY  CARSON CITY, NV
>> 1310   KLIX  TWIN FALLS, ID
>> 1320   KFNZ  SALT LAKE CITY, UT
>> 1330   KWKW  LOS ANGELES, CA AND LATER KLBS  LOS BANOS, CA
>> 1350   KTDD  SAN BERNADINO, CA
>> 1360   KFIV  MODESTO, CA
>> 1370   KSOP  SOUTH SALT LAKE CITY, UT
>> 1380   KTKZ  SACRAMENTO, CA
>> 1390   KLOC  TURLOCK, CA (NO I-D; IDENTIFIED BY FORMAT)
>> 1410   KERI  BAKERSFIELD, CA AND LATER KMYC  MARYSVILLE, CA
>> 1420   KSTN  STOCKTON, CA
>> 1430   KLO  SALT LAKE CITY, UT
>> 1440   KFNY  RIVERSIDE, CA
>> 1460   KENO  LAS VEGAS, NV (NO I-D; IDENTIFIED BY FORMAT)
>> 1470   XEHM  CUIDAD DELICIAS, MX
>> 1500   KSJX  SAN JOSE, CA
>> 1510   KFNN  MESA, AZ AND LATER KSFN  PIEDMONT, CA
>> 1520   ALL SS  (PEST KOKC NULLED OUT)
>> 1530   KFBK OF COURSE  SACRAMENTO, CA
>> 1540   KMPC  LOS ANGELES, CA (KXEL NULLED)
>> 1550   KXEX  FRESNO, CA
>> 1560   KNZR  BAKERSFIELD, CA
>> 1570   KPRO  RIVERSIDE, CA
>> 1590   KLIV  SAN JOSE, CA AND LATER KVTA VENTURA, CA
>> 1600   KTUB  CENTERVILLE, UT
>>
>> COMMENTS:  Any Double-Kaz non-believers still around?  I want to thank
>> Neil
>> Kazaross for explaining the Double-Kaz antenna at the recent joint
>> convention.  I became an instant convert when he displayed the EZNEC
>> pattern
>> for pickup capability.
>>
>> After nulling KOA, there were literally NO signals heard from the
>> East...with the exception of WHO and WOAI wandering in and out
>> occasionally.
>>
>> If there's one thing "wrong" with the antenna it's the ultra-wide
>> acceptance
>> angle.  We plan to duplicate this DX-Pedition using D-Kaz antennas in
>> BROADSIDE ARRAY, narrowing the beam-width.  For this deployment, antenna
>> dimensions were 120 feet end-to-end with a 20-foot height.  A 10 db RF
>> amplifier was used to overcome the inherently low-level output; most
>> noticeable apparent on the low end due to the small size of the array.
>>
>> Further info available...
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark Durenberger
>>
>>
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