Re: [IRCA] TP Lions Bay BC 21 Sep 2013

[d1028gary@xxxxxxx]

Thanks Nick,

<<<   So....I heard the Taiwan Fisheries station on 1143 I think, but Gary, 
I'm quite puzzled now as to what  you were hearing.   >>>

Me, too! It was obviously Mandarin Chinese, and obviously not // to 738. Until Chuck had mentioned the 1143-Henan logging at Grayland in 2009, I had no idea that there might be a reasonable Mainland possibility on the frequency. Stranger things have happened, though-- weird Chinese stations frequently pop up here in September. For example, 657-Henan once took over the frequency at an S7 level for 5 minutes back in 2011, forcing the Pyongyang tirades down into the noise.

Anyway, I'm sure that during the rest of this season, 1143 kHz will get more than a little scrutiny by all concerned :-)

73, Gary



  


-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Hall-Patch <nhp@xxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sat, Sep 21, 2013 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: [IRCA] TP Lions Bay BC 21 Sep 2013


Certainly you didn't have 738 and 1143 in parallel this morning by 
the sound of your recordings Gary.    But this conundrum put me on 
the investigative path.   First of all, there appears to be a 
webstream (just one, though the top of the referring site cites 738 
and 1143):  mms://210.69.31.107:8080 referenced from 
http://www.frs.gov.tw/ so we can check in future perhaps.

Second of all....they have an 
archive....http://www.frs.gov.tw/newweb/live.asp so we should be able 
to hear what we were all listening to this morning...OK, Taiwan is 
UTC+8, and you heard it at 1338UT....so 21:38 Taiwan time.   I 
downloaded the  21:20-22:00 realplayer file for 21 Sept 
(slow...).  18 minutes in is music, nothing like either of your 
recordings.   The file ends with time pips, so it at least it ends on 
the hour, but maybe the hour is wrong, or the day?

Now I had a little audio on 1143 after 1400UT,  very faint but DXer 
friendly, a sound of a siren and a man yelling a few syllables, 
practically a DX test.   The 22:00 file on 21 September starts with a 
siren and a man bellowing followed a short while later with a woman 
talking, which I also hear as my recording fades up a bit.


So....I heard the Taiwan Fisheries station on 1143 I think, but Gary, 
I'm quite puzzled now as to what  you were hearing.
At least we have some more tools in the DX toolbox!

best wishes,

Nick

At 01:51 22-09-13, you wrote:



>Hi Chuck, Nick, Michael and all,
>
>My fair-level 1143 kHz Chinese language station (with a female CC 
>monolog going on at 1138) was assumed to be BEL3 in Taiwan, 
>primarily because of the station's 100 kW transmitter, the huge 
>signal of 738-Taiwan at the time, and the fact that nothing is 
>listed in the Grayland Master Log for Mainland China on the 
>frequency. I suppose that a Mainland Chinese station could have come 
>up out of the blue to dominate the frequency with no trace of BEL3, 
>but it seems unlikely to me (not impossible, though).
>
>The 1143-Chinese recording linked below wrapped up at 1338, and the 
>738 kHz parallel check recording linked after it was switched on 
>within a couple of seconds (after FSL tuning to 738). Unless there 
>was a sudden change of programming within a couple of seconds (or 
>unless the 1143 Chinese was actually a mystery Mainland station), 
>the evidence would indicate that the two stations were not running 
>parallel programming.
>
>http://www.mediafire.com/listen/r2520o5h9e51j7x/1143-BEL3-1338z092113PL380.MP3
>
>http://www.mediafire.com/listen/33ddlsx473lardz/738-BEL2-1338z092113PL380.MP3
>
>
>Of course, if I am proven wrong, I will be happy to invite you all 
>to the best restaurant in Grayland (knowing full well that almost 
>all of you will decline the offer).
>
>73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chuck <charlesh3@xxxxxxx>
>To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America 
><irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sat, Sep 21, 2013 2:36 pm
>Subject: Re: [IRCA] TP Lions Bay BC 21 Sep 2013
>
>
>Gary -
>
>738 has the same program as 1143 and 1593 unless something changed very
>very recently.
>
>BEL2 and BEL3 are just call letters rather than networks.
>
>Got a recording? Maybe there is a hot-off-the-presses change?
>
>
>Chuck
>
>
>On 9/21/2013 1:33 PM, d1028gary@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > Hi Michael, Nick and All,
> >
> > At the exact time that Michael reported his 738 kHz TP (1328) I had a huge
>signal from 738-BEL2 in Taiwan this morning, as well as a fair-level Mainland
>Chinese co-channel mixing with it at times. The signal from 
>738-Taiwan was at a
>monster level (one of the strongest it has ever managed here), so I 
>would guess
>that Michael also was receiving it.
> >
> > I also had Michael's 1143-Taiwan signal in at a fair level this morning at
>1339, when he reported it. The programming on 1143-Taiwan (female CC monolog)
>didn't match that on 738-Taiwan (male CC hosted call-in talk program) at that
>moment, though. The 2013 WRTH indicates that 738-Taiwan has a BEL2 program,
>while 1143-Taiwan has a BEL3 program, so I guess that was 
>confirmation that the
>parallel doesn't work.
> >
> > It was a wild sunrise session here this morning, and I'm still 
> going over the
>TP recordings to sort out what happened. Thanks for your report, Michael, and
>it's great to have you in our TP-chasing group!
> >
> > 73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
> >
> >
>
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