Re: [IRCA] 1323

[Bruce Portzer <bportzer@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Nick

To add to the confusion, the two sites in NE China are probably 
directional tho I don't show them as such in the PAL.  They're not all 
that far apart for co-channel transmitters with hundreds of kw power.   
In checking through my email trail, you first brought the Korean service 
to my attention back in 2007 after you received it and had Bill Harms 
translate the ID.  Before that, I  had only the Russian service listed.

Bruce

On 9/21/2012 23:13, Nick Hall-Patch wrote:
> Hi Dennis,
>
> I'm afraid I didn't look deeply enough into PAL....there are yet two 
> more CRI's listed on 1323.  Lhasa we can ignore for now (later in the 
> season perhaps, hi?), but there's another R. Kitaya, in Shuanghyashan, 
> which is in northeastern China 46 40N, 131 21E, and is likely the one 
> that Walt and I are hearing these mornings, especially if it's 
> directional to the Russian Far East.    The KK service is more likely 
> to be real DX for us, if it's directional into Korea, though of course 
> there may be side lobes.   But that's all speculation on my part.
>
> best wishes,
>
> Nick
>
>
> At 04:56 22-09-12, you wrote:
> > Nick,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PAL's lists the CRI 1323 kHz Huadian , Jilin station with Korean from 
> > 1100-1400 utc. Huadian site is about 260 miles West of the Pacific 
> > ocean and around 100 miles North of North Korea. Huadian does 
> > broadcast VOR from 1400-1500 utc. The CRI Hutubi, Xinjiang station on 
> > 1323 kHz is listed with Russian from 1300-1457 utc. The Hutubi site 
> > is about 1,600 miles West of the Pacific Ocean . This site has two 
> > rows of four antennas and another area has 4 antennas. 
> > 44°09'33"N,86°53'58"E. If you have time, enter coordinates on Google 
> > Earth and view the transmitter site. Both Huadian and Hutubi are 
> > listed in Asiawaves as 600 kw.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Dennis,
> > Kalama, WA
> >
> >
> > Dennis,
> > Kalama, WA
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Nick Hall-Patch <nhp@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America 
> > <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1323
> >
> > To confuse the issue, PAL lists two separate CRI transmitters on 
> > 1323, one broadcasting KK (and to further confusion yet, it goes to 
> > VoR at 1400UT), and one broadcasting RR.     But the latter is in the 
> > far northwest of the country, so seems a little unlikely to be the 
> > one that we are hearing in RR...
> >
> > So does the Huadian transmitter broadcast RR in spite of what is 
> > stated in the schedule?    It sure sounded like RR to me at 1334UT 
> > this morning.
> >
> > Puzzling.
> >
> > best wishes,
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > At 18:05 21-09-12, Walt wrote:
> > > Dennis, 1323 here is solid CRI Russian, but this is later than your
> > > time  (c 13:30).  Is Korean on before the Russian service? ......Walt
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Dennis Vroom <vroomski@xxxxxxxxx> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > > 1323   CHINA, CRI Jilin Province 1130-1237 in and out very weak 
> > to weak signal. Korean (PALS & Asia waves). Fair signal with moderate 
> > splatter at 1310.NW ewe. 09/21/2012
> > > >
> > > >
> > > __

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