Re: [IRCA] On the nature of DX Alerts

[Todd <todftscytj7707@xxxxxxx>]

Their is a negative undertone that is going on with this thread. 

Is it possible to focus now on the positive?

Paul I think you have alot to offer to the dx community .

I hope and pray that we all can focus on the love of the hobby.

Sincerely,
Todd Skaine 
Woodbury, MN
2010, PL 310 or 
Toyota radio

"Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>My moral and legal responsibilities as a broadcaster come FIRST, as
>broadcasting is my CAREER. A HOBBY comes second. No iffs ands or butts.
>
>Paul
>
>On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> I think most DX'ers endorse a middle ground position, actually.
>>
>> We have no problem with stations who unintentionally stay on late, run on
>> daylight power/pattern/etc. It provides rare DXing opportunities.
>>
>> Some of us take exception to stations that do it routinely as they do
>> become "pests".
>>
>> Your action last night makes perfect sense in the context of a broadcaster
>> helping out a fellow broadcaster. The problem is that you became
>> aware of the situation only because you're also a member of this list
>> (which is for DX'ers)
>>
>> I guess some of us feel that you used that knowledge improperly. A couple
>> of hours wouldn't have hurt, while the "quick alert" on your part
>> prevented many of us from potentially logging a new station.
>>
>> No intention to hurt anyone on your part...and lord knows, you've done
>> plenty for the hobby. Others are even more over-zealous.
>>
>>
>> *In a Foreign Lottery,
>> **more than just the odds are against you. *
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>>
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>> On 2/11/2012 5:17 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote:
>>
>>> Every broadcaster I've talked to agrees with me that once a station is
>>> made
>>> aware of the issue and do nothing about it, then it becomes intentional.
>>>
>>> I totally understand the point the DX'ers are making here, don't get me
>>> wrong.. as I am a DX'er too.
>>>
>>> That being said, as a broadcaster, what angers me, is that DX'ers think a
>>> station should continue to operate in a manner other then what they're
>>> licensed for just to suit/benefit a DX'er who hasn't logged the station
>>> yet.
>>>
>>> However, the DX'ers want their cake and eat it too... if a stations being
>>> a
>>> pest, they jump up and down, screaming for the station to stop
>>> misbehaving.
>>>
>>> DX'ers come across as a group who want a station to operate ill-legally
>>> only when it benefits them.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Les Rayburn<les@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  I am reluctant to chime in on this issue. Paul is an example of a
>>>> broadcaster, who is also a friend to DX'ers. He's scheduled or helped to
>>>> schedule several
>>>> DX tests, and we're all in his debt.
>>>>
>>>> But I do think he was out of line on this one. This list is about DXing,
>>>> and once in a lifetime opportunities like that need to be respected. If
>>>> you
>>>> monitor or
>>>> lurk on this list for the purpose of reporting violations to the
>>>> FCC---you're wasting your time. There are offenders who have been doing
>>>> so
>>>> on a daily basis
>>>> for years. They've all been reported numerous times, and the FCC has
>>>> taken
>>>> no action.
>>>>
>>>> The sad part is that Paul's offense is minor compared to the action that
>>>> some DX'ers have taken in this regard. Curtis, are you here? During my
>>>> tenure
>>>> as Test Coordinator, I was shocked at how many DX'ers seemed to consider
>>>> themselves as unpaid monitoring employees for the FCC. Failing to get
>>>> "action" out of this agency, some of them turned to harassing station
>>>> owners, engineers, and even calling other stations on the same frequency
>>>> hoping
>>>> to solicit their support for their "cause".
>>>>
>>>> My own time to spend DXing is very limited. So Tips and DX tests
>>>> represent
>>>> the best opportunity for me to log new stations. I'm protective of these
>>>> lists, and
>>>> the people who give generously of their time and expertise to post them.
>>>>
>>>> Paul--you're my friend, and I stand behind you. But I think you made the
>>>> wrong call on this one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> *Les Rayburn, N1LF*
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