Re: [IRCA] Getting to the bottom of 1710 - OT chuckle

["HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS" <DAVID.HASCALL@xxxxxxxx>]

My thought process trailed off a bit:

When I said: " when 1. You have an unID that someone can actually help
you with (if you are a
domestic DX'er you probably would not expect a reply"

I meant to say: " when 1. You have an unID that someone can actually
help you with (if you are a
domestic DX'er you probably would not expect a reply FROM A TP, TA OR
FOREIGN DX'er)."

Sorry
73,
Dave in Indy

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 08:59:13 -0400
From: "HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS" <DAVID.HASCALL@xxxxxxxx>
To: <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Getting to the bottom of 1710 - OT
	chuckle
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Hi Paul,

Hope that I have not started a firestorm.  

Youth maybe or maybe not and the same goes for equipment - I have seen
"shunning" for no apparent reason.  Again not by many - I have
productive conversations with about 98% of DX'ers but it is odd when you
don't get a reply over several time periods.  And of those 98%, I have
developed some good friends and acquaintances.  One DX'er (Gary) gifted
me a ULR and another sold me a radio at his cost.  

Then there is the other hand.  One DX'er I helped with 3 different
unID's over a year and I never got as much as a "thank you" or "it could
not have been Kxxx because they don't play hip-music at 0445", "leave me
alone" and so on.  Nothing.  I finally remembered that my emails
sometime get corrupted.  So I emailed that DX'er and simply asked "xxxx
can you check to see if you got an email from me last Tuesday?
Sometimes they go into la la land."  I got a reply the next day.  "Yeah
I have been getting your emails where you helped me ID some stations.  I
guess that I should have thanked you."  :O  He guesses that he should
have thanked me?  Maybe it's just me but I fall all over myself,
thanking folks when they offer assistance.

Now as far as DX reporting.  You will normally get responses when 1. You
have an unID that someone can actually help you with (if you are a
domestic DX'er you probably would not expect a reply 2. You report a
station on late or 3. Someone is testing or wildly off frequency (but
some of Tom Jasinski's recent ones have been ignored).  But for normal
domestic loggings, I do not expect a reply.  

Your reports are worthwhile, Paul as it may help someone with an unID of
their own or to find a station to target for their own logbook.  If you
want better and more DX, a $15 Sony SRF-59 would be nicer than nothing
and there are some low cost ULR's with digital readout too.  Also, I'm
sure that your logs would be welcomed at DX Mid America's website, by
John J. Reiger.

Sorry for the OT diatribe!

73,
Dave in Indy

PS: Saul - Thanks for your earlier reply - we all miss emails.  It
wasn't you hi.

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 22:03:19 -0500
From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
	<irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Getting to the bottom of 1710 - OT
	Chuckle
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Dave:

I am probably one of the youngest DXer's on the list. Not the youngest,
but
probably pretty close.

I've posted page long DX logs on an infrequent basis and gotten not a
single
response and get no response, but certain others who post page long
diatribes get a response.

Who knows why.. I dont have the most sophisticated equipment or the
experience/history some folks do...  and maybe people don't find what
I've
got to say interesting.

Paul


On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Saul DX <sauldx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I think one raeson it can happen is the sheer volume of e-mail...I
know
> I've let a few slip By I shoulda responded to....
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS" <
> DAVID.HASCALL@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <davidecrawford@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <sauldx@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [NRC-AM] Getting to the bottom of 1710 - OT Chuckle
>
>
> David,
>
> That first sentence is oddly funny but quite true.  I had to look up
> oligarchy in the dictionary. :)  It meant what I thought it would.
> However I'm not sure that the "oligarchical tradition" is just
reserved
> for the NRC.  And maybe not even radio related hobbies, either.
>
> I am on lots of forums and lists, both DX or non-DX related and I have
> been ignored in several instances.  It is funny, even though it
> shouldn't be.  Maybe it's because I'm younger than lots of the old
> guard, don't own tens of thousands of dollars of equipment, etc.  In
the
> past, I have tried to help some DX'ers with unID's, ask for advice,
and
> so on while 90% reply there are some of the "elite group" that just
> ignore me and my "peonic" self.   Don't try to look up "peonic" it's
not
> in the dictionary.
>
> 73 and thanks for the inadvertent chuckle.
>
> 73,
> Dave in Indy
>
>
>


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