Re: [IRCA] WOKY/WISN DX Test QSL Update (PLEASE READ)

["Chuck Hutton" <charlesh3@xxxxxxx>]

What conditions are you talking about? I know of no time limit rule on the
QSL from Kent. Perhaps a person or two made their own rule, but the other
99% of us aren't accountable for that.

Isn't the real issue that Kent has not done anything in 3 years? If you
can't take care of a small task like this within 3 years, you're not trying
very hard.

Now don't get me wrong - I don't think stations owe us QSL's. Also, I would
never complain to the station.

Nonetheless, I feel he let us down. He made a promise and 3 years later he
hasn't done anything. If he hadn't made the promise, fine. But he did, and
the plea of "I've been busy for 3 years" contains little honesty in my book.
I have my very busy periods at work, but any little task I haven't done in 3
years didn't get done simply because I didn't really want to.

Of course, this is an internal IRCA discussion. The interface with the
stations remains the same: "anything we can do to help - like print the
QSL's and address them - just let us know".


Chuck

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] WOKY/WISN DX Test QSL Update (PLEASE READ)

Not to single out John, or anyone else, but I have to agree
with Bob. We cannot put terms or conditions on tests,
or we will surely see fewer of them.

In this case, I have no reason to doubt that Kent Winrich
fully intended to QSL the test promptly. Kent is a DX'er
himself and very friendly to the hobby...but there was
no way for him to foresee the decision by management
to want to rapidly install HD transmitters, or
his move/job change. I can think of at least one other
DX test where similar things happened.

For me, the "proof" of my reception is a good quality
recording. QSL cards are nice tokens, but I think some
DX'ers place too much value on them.

I worked at WFLI radio years ago, and saw the CE there
"rubber stamp" reception reports without ever once
listening to the recording, or checking details against
the station log. At WDEF, the situation was much the
same...so how "real" is such a verification?

I've also personally received many, many reports
from DX'ers that were simply false or so incomplete
that verification wasn't possible. Some of our ranks
are clearly just submitting reports to tests when they
did not make an actual reception---again, who are
they cheating, except themselves?

And don't get me started on DX'ers who submit reports
without return postage, or an SASE. Or they submit
an hour long tape that isn't cued to the station
ID or test material. Do you really think that engineers
have nothing else to do but listen to your recordings or
address envelopes?

But while I'm trying to clear the "backlog" of DX tests
without verifications, are there any others that still
need replies? I'll try to contact those people and
work something out too.

73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
NRC/IRCA Broadcast Test Coordinator
Please call anytime 24/7 if your transmitter
will be off the air for maintenance.
(205) 253-4867



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Coomler" <w6rjc@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] WOKY/WISN DX Test QSL Update (PLEASE READ)


> No offense, but how sad.  Tests are done as a
> courtesy, pure and simple.  If verifications don't
> come back in x-days, so be it.  With an attitude of
> "How long does it take to tell someone to print up 100
> cards", no wonder MW QSL'ing is on its death bed. My
> $0.02.
>
> Bob Coomler
> Cloverdale, CA
>
>
> --- J999w@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> Keep on him.
>>
>> How long does it take to tell someone to print up
>> 100 cards?
>>
>> "Make sure they say ..... "
>>
>> Delivered in a week, pass them on to the manager who
>> *happily* fills them out.
>>
>> Done.
>>
>> John K9RZZ
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