Re: [IRCA] WOKY/WISN DX Test QSL Update (PLEASE READ)

[JPOGUE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Please allow me to throw my 2 cents into this mix. All of us who BCB DX 
seem to have our own style of doing it, our own preferences and our own 
ideas about what is important. I think the MOST important thing is to 
respect each other's ideas about what is important and what isn't. I 
really like to hear the stations, and REALLY, REALLY like receiving 
those QSLs that I can hold in my hands. They are tangible souvenirs of 
my adventures on the airways, and those cards from the 60s and 70s are 
priceless to me. 

For others, they are worthless pieces of paper. At the same time, for 
folks like Les, their recordings are more valuable than gold. For still 
others, just hearing the station is enough to give them great enjoyment.

I respect what is important to other DXers, and simply ask the same in 
return.

Finally, Les, you're doing a great job and thanks a million. Whether 
those QSLs come from my postman or over the Internet is not important 
to me. Although we all like to recall the "good old days," we all have 
to adapt a little bit.

OK - that's it - sermon over. Pass the collection plate and lets get 
back to our radios.

73s,

Jim Pogue
Memphis, TN

----- Original Message -----
From: Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:23 pm
Subject: Re: [IRCA] WOKY/WISN DX Test QSL Update (PLEASE READ)
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America <irca@hard-
core-dx.com>, NRC AM List <am@xxxxxxxxxxx>

> Not to single out John, or anyone else, but I have to agree
> with Bob. We cannot put terms or conditions on tests,
> or we will surely see fewer of them.
> 
> In this case, I have no reason to doubt that Kent Winrich
> fully intended to QSL the test promptly. Kent is a DX'er
> himself and very friendly to the hobby...but there was
> no way for him to foresee the decision by management
> to want to rapidly install HD transmitters, or
> his move/job change. I can think of at least one other
> DX test where similar things happened.
> 
> For me, the "proof" of my reception is a good quality
> recording. QSL cards are nice tokens, but I think some
> DX'ers place too much value on them.
> 
> I worked at WFLI radio years ago, and saw the CE there
> "rubber stamp" reception reports without ever once
> listening to the recording, or checking details against
> the station log. At WDEF, the situation was much the
> same...so how "real" is such a verification?
> 
> I've also personally received many, many reports
> from DX'ers that were simply false or so incomplete
> that verification wasn't possible. Some of our ranks
> are clearly just submitting reports to tests when they
> did not make an actual reception---again, who are
> they cheating, except themselves?
> 
> And don't get me started on DX'ers who submit reports
> without return postage, or an SASE. Or they submit
> an hour long tape that isn't cued to the station
> ID or test material. Do you really think that engineers
> have nothing else to do but listen to your recordings or
> address envelopes?
> 
> But while I'm trying to clear the "backlog" of DX tests
> without verifications, are there any others that still
> need replies? I'll try to contact those people and
> work something out too.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> NRC/IRCA Broadcast Test Coordinator
> Please call anytime 24/7 if your transmitter
> will be off the air for maintenance.
> (205) 253-4867
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Coomler" <w6rjc@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" 
> <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] WOKY/WISN DX Test QSL Update (PLEASE READ)
> 
> 
> > No offense, but how sad.  Tests are done as a
> > courtesy, pure and simple.  If verifications don't
> > come back in x-days, so be it.  With an attitude of
> > "How long does it take to tell someone to print up 100
> > cards", no wonder MW QSL'ing is on its death bed. My
> > $0.02.
> >
> > Bob Coomler
> > Cloverdale, CA
> >
> >
> > --- J999w@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> >> Keep on him.
> >>
> >> How long does it take to tell someone to print up
> >> 100 cards?
> >>
> >> "Make sure they say ..... "
> >>
> >> Delivered in a week, pass them on to the manager who
> >> *happily* fills them out.
> >>
> >> Done.
> >>
> >> John K9RZZ
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