Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] India to Illinois on 1566 ?
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Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] India to Illinois on 1566 ?



Mendota is about a 45 minute drive due west of here.  If I had the guy's
address I would pay him a visit and ask to listen to a tape if one exists!

Tom Jasinski
Shorewood, IL

----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Kazaross" <neilkaz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [NRC-AM] India to Illinois on 1566 ?


> Here's my message posted to ABDX which basically is my strong on opinion
on
> the matter. If the logging were in winter and more westerly high band
stuff
> like Kuwait 1548 and Saudi 1521 had shown up, it would be half way
> believable, but as it it, I very strongly feel that there is no chance
this
> guy got India almost 90 minutes after there sunrise on the shortest day of
> the year with much of the path in daylight.
>
> "I am not only questioning his catch, I am disputing it !! Mendota is
> 67 miles SW of here and the bearing to Nagpur is 13 deg. I wonder just
> how much of the 8000+ mile path is in daylight on June 21 ?
>
> http://www.nrcdxas.org/articles/newfee.txt links you to some of our
> loggings from Newfoundland where in mid Oct, 1566 fades out at 0040
> UTC xmtr sunrise !! Anyhow, I'd suspect Nagpur sunrise is around 0000
> this time of the year. (I'll check my maps later from home)
>
> The DXer in question didn't say whether the time heard was CDT or UTC,
> but most SWers use UTC. 2030 UTC is mid afternoon here.
>
> He was looking for Brazilians on 1570 ?!?!? From Illinois ??!!
>
> Now I am aware that a few DXers don't believe some of my phased BOG
> domestic loggings, so I have tapes of some of them. I am also aware
> that some magic things happen on the high end, but not when most of
> the path is in daylight on the shortest day of the year. (I don't
> believe long path for one second, either)
>
> Brazilians on 1570 and India on 1566 from IL on Jun 21 !! This guy was
> reading an old Newfie DXped report while smoking the peace pipe.
>
> 73 KAZ "
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russ Edmunds" <wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <am@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "IRCA List" <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:21 AM
> Subject: [NRC-AM] India to Illinois on 1566 ?
>
>
> >
> > Taking into account several of the comments on the lists, there are
> > some observations I'd make:
> >
> > 1) 13 degrees bearing ( presuming accuracy ) woould subject the
> > listener to more potential auroral absorption than a bearing closer to
> > zero
> >
> > 2) The program details provided are extremely general
> >
> > 3) The time of day, which also wasn't provided would be critical if
> > this were grey-line reception
> >
> > 4) There is no other propagation mode which could account for such a
> > reception other than perhaps long path. The time of year seems to
> > present a problem for a trans-polar path.
> >
> > 5) Depending on time of day again, there would/should be interference
> > from the TP.
> >
> >
> > While I believe that this reception certainly could occur under just
> > the right set of circumstances, I'm quite skeptical on balance that
> > this report actually occurred exactly as stated.
> >
> > Russ Edmunds
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