Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

[Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@xxxxxxx>]

The absorption can take place on signal paths which are on more northerly paths.  When conditions are quiet more signals can traverse the polar region without absorption. As a severe aurora sets in, the zone of absorption expands and therefore more signal paths are impacted.



Russ Edmunds

WB2BJH

Blue Bell, PA

Grid FN20id

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From: Gary DeBock <d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 3:04:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

<<< Auroral absorption would not impact stations whose signal paths are coming to you on Kauai from the S or SW. >>>

Thanks Russ,

Australian and NZ signals were stronger than ever here this morning on Kauai, but the Asians didn't seem to drop off very much. Maybe the ionosphere treats this location like part of Asia?

Gary
On November 5, 2018 at 9:19 AM Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@xxxxxxx<mailto:wb2bjh@xxxxxxx>> wrote:


Auroral absorption would not impact stations whose signal paths are coming to you on Kauai from the S or SW.



Russ Edmunds

WB2BJH

Blue Bell, PA

Grid FN20id

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From: IRCA <irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on behalf of Gary DeBock <d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 12:03:25 PM
To: Mauno Ritola; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing

<<< as you apparently didn't have time to check the ID from SW yet, I did it
for you from the stream. I'd write it in Latin letters phonetically as:
"Haiqa ti Shya Kongpo Tientai" and that is what I hear in your clip at
about 15 seconds.

As I heard, that the attachment size has been raised, I attach a 63 kB
clip in this message. >>>

Thanks very much, Mauno. Despite the solar slowdown this morning 783-Voice of Straight was its usual booming self into Hawaii at 1600 UTC, with this S9 ID in presumed Amoy https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/wnaev5gjrd045a22mt01nlnri12bsout
By the way, Mauno, do you know if the 1431-Mongolia relay station has stopped transmitting? They were S9 in the Cook Islands around 1630 UTC in April, but haven't showed up here yet, despite good conditions yesterday and the day before.
Regarding 729-Myanmar, I now know that there are no MW parallels to check for its programming, so probably the best that I can hope for is Burmese language identification, or mentions of Myanmar in the recording content, as at the 43 second point of this recording https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/pflnbymjhgx5m88l03wgvtsss7gnlfff.
I'm also chasing a 702 UnID language recording at 1623 UTC made yesterday, with the female speaker in an apparent Slavic-type language. My WRTH shows 702-AIR's foreign service in Jalandhar A with Urdu at the time, broadcasting to South Asia https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/6y1yiuoxvzd0tty50cnehmma670jb708
Thanks again for all your assessment help!

Gary
On November 5, 2018 at 6:50 AM Mauno Ritola wrote:
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Gary,
as you apparently didn't have time to check the ID from SW yet, I did it
for you from the stream. I'd write it in Latin letters phonetically as:
"Haiqa ti Shya Kongpo Tientai" and that is what I hear in your clip at
about 15 seconds.
As I heard, that the attachment size has been raised, I attach a 63 kB
clip in this message.
Now if someone would write 'open' all those Mongolian, Tibetan and other
IDs, that are heard from China on MW.
Hope this helps,
Mauno
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Gary DeBock kirjoitti 5.11.2018 klo 8:40:
Chris,
Thanks very much for your investigation of the 783 kHz UnID Chinese station identity. 783-Voice of the Straight is the strongest Asian TP on the band both in the morning and evening here, and it plays an incredible variety of music (Chinese opera, pop, instrumentals, and even rap :-)
<<< Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it sounds.

  1.  The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music (doesn't mean it doesn't exist underground and that people don't listen anyway), but here, you can hear them broadcast it on one of their own propaganda stations aimed at Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as well) and most Chinese-language music in those genres originates there, so it makes sense they're throwing some of it their way.Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it sounds. >>>

Well, when a government has absolute power they certainly have the prerogative to change their minds or modify laws as desired, don't they? My wife is Hong Kong Chinese, and she always tells me that laws don't mean anything in China, where the government can do anything it wishes. But sometimes I wonder how many Taiwan residents actually listen to these mono-format music broadcasts with a heavy propaganda edge? When you lived in Seoul, were the people rushing to turn on the Voice of Unification after their 12-hour work days? I think not. But to be honest, the programming from Pyongyang BS and KCBS is so ridiculous that it is actually pretty amusing, and I would be sorry if this type of amusement suddenly disappeared from the radio scene..
Gary (in Poipu, Hawaii)
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>> On November 4, 2018 at 2:21 PM Chris Kadlec wrote:
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>> Your 783 you've been hearing has been confirmed as Voice of the Straits broadcasting in Amoy, as I was suspecting (since it was the only high-powered one left). My friend in Guangdong, who can hear all of those stations nearby and can understand Amoy, listened to it and confirmed it for you.
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>> Meanwhile, the clip that you just posted here is 100% Voice of the Straits. It's both hypocritical and ridiculous to hear on this station, as nice as it sounds.
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>> 1. The government of China has BANNED rap and hip-hop music (doesn't mean it doesn't exist underground and that people don't listen anyway), but here, you can hear them broadcast it on one of their own propaganda stations aimed at Taiwan. Taiwan is a huge consumer of hip-hop and rock music (American music as well) and most Chinese-language music in those genres originates there, so it makes sense they're throwing some of it their way.
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>> 2) The song you're hearing is Allen Su "Beijing City" (Allen Su took 2nd place in the 2007 Super Boy competition, a TV music contest show in China). Its lyrics are about the highest level of propaganda you could spew at your enemy across the water because it speaks everything great about Beijing. It's EXACTLY what Seoul broadcasts on Jayu FM into North Korea (I included a hefty chunk of the song in my Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide documentary), a song called "Seoul Seoul" that says all the same great things about Seoul sorta. The difference is that it was used for the '88 Olympics, but the idea behind using that suitable song for propaganda is the same.
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>> The Beijing song is here, lyrics included:
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>> -Chris Kadlec
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>> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:02:13 -0800 (PST)
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>> From: Gary DeBock
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>> To: Chris Kadlec , irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Poipu, Kauai (Hawaii) DXing
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>> Thanks for your assessment on the 783 Chinese station, Chris, and also on the 801 jammer (or lack thereof).
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>> Of all the Asian signals here in this Asian-oriented DXing paradise, 783-China and (surprise!) 657-Pyongyang BS are the S9+ leaders every morning. This is a major reversal from the Kona, Hawaii situation last December, when 819-KCBS and 981-CNR1 were far and away the top dogs.
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>> When I heard this bizarre Chinese rap music on 783-China at 1541 UTC yesterday, I thought that it sounded like a weird Chinese copy of Korean rap artists like Leessang :-)
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>> https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/u653xdigwaeiaxlrh42x8duky2w3ppoz
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>> Gary
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