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Re: [HCDX] Radio Luxembourg & Germany callsigns

Hi Noel,
all the private spanish AM stations have a callsign
assigned (including those of the Basque autonomous
gov.) in the EAJ and EAK series. But these calls are
rarely heard on the air. Only in special events
related with the history of a station. They are more
commonly seen on the stations letter heads.
About Luxembourg, the ITU International Frequency List
4th edition (February 1967) still don´t show any
registration on LW for R. Luxembourg. The 1439 khz
entry have no callsign assigned.
Othe curious calls are these of Radio Vaticana! in
1958 they have registered the well known HVJ (as fixed
service from Castel Gandolfo, Castel Romano & Sta.
Maria de Galeria, and broadcasting from Cité Du
Vatican) but some other: HV5 (1967 1484 khz), HV100
(1967 1529 khz) HVG, HVG11, HVG17,
HVJ1,3,5,6,8,9,10,14, HVM,
HVM1,2,3,6,7,8,9,12,15,19,21,22,
HVP3,4,5,7,9,10,13,16,18,20,23.
The United Kingdom had lots of calls registered for
broadcasting. The well know three letters calls used
for the BBC on SW. Every call is registered for the 4
SW tx sites... GRM Daventry, Rampisham, Skelton,
Woofferton. Some only for three: GRG Daventry, Skelton
& Woofferton.


Saludos


M.Molano


 --- Noel R Green <NRGreen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

> Hello Mauricio,
> Sorry for the delay in replying
> I did know about
> the initial broadcasts via Chelmsford using the call
> 5XX on long wave -
> these were made before the transmission was moved to
> Daventry. There was
> also a 2MT located at Chelmsford carrying out tests.
> 
> It would have been nice if the BBC had continued
> with these call signs - as
> the Australians do - but as in most of Europe they
> didn't. I don't remember
> if Spain still announces their calls signs on MW but
> I seem to recollect
> that they once did - the private networks/stations
> anyway.
> 
> Thanks again and 73 from..........Noel
> 
> >  --- Noel R Green <NRGreen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> escribió:
> >
> > > Hello Mauricio,
> > > The question about call-signs for European LW/MW
> > > stations is a very
> > > interesting one - even intriguing! By 1958 I
> would
> > > guess that the Luxembourg
> > > LW frequency had become "legitimate" and fully
> > > authorised to use 236 kHz,
> > > but pre-WWII and just post WWII it was not. I
> assume
> > > - although I don't know
> > > for sure - that the country of location would
> issue
> > > a call sign when
> > > granting a licence to broadcast.
> > >
> > > Looking through William Hepburns's list of LW
> > > stations I do recognise some
> > > of the call signs he lists. The one listed for
> the
> > > BBC Droitwich station on
> > > 198 was actually issued to the very first BBC LW
> > > transmitter that was
> > > installed at Daventry in about 1925 and operated
> on
> > > 1600 metres. It is
> > > actually referred to in historical literature of
> the
> > > time as 5XX. This
> > > station still existed when the new high power
> > > installation at Droitwich went
> > > on air in the mid-1930's, and it was actually
> used
> > > again during WWII to make
> > > it difficult for German aircraft to use the then
> > > frequency of 200 kHz for
> > > direction finding. Actually, Droitwich was
> converted
> > > to operate on MW and
> > > two other transmitters were used on 200 - one at
> > > Brookmans Park (London) and
> > > another built in about 1943 at Ottringham on the
> > > east coast of Yorkshire as
> > > well as 5XX Daventry. So the history of the call
> > > sign and how it is now
> > > associated with Droitwich [this was re-converted
> to
> > > work on LW post WWII]
> > > is slightly obscure!
> > >
> > > You may also know about the first BBC MW station
> in
> > > London called 2LO - this
> > > did announce as 2LO I understand. All of the
> other
> > > original BBC MW stations
> > > had call signs of a number and two letters. But
> I
> > > have no idea if the 2LO
> > > call sign was ever transferred to Brookmans Park
> > > which replaced it in about
> > > 1929.
> > >
> > > The German sites you list did all have SW
> > > transmitters at one time
> > > NordenOsterloog was operated by the NDR and one
> > > frequency used was 3970 kHz.
> > > This site was initially used by the D.Welle and
> it
> > > was also the site of the
> > > WWII Reichsender Hamburg station using 658 kHz
> and
> > > later used by the BBC
> > > post-WWII on 1295. It later became a maritime
> > > station as you indicate.
> > > Muehlacker [Stuttgart] SDR has only recently
> closed
> > > their 6030 transmitter.
> > > Muenchen now radiates DRM on 6085. Bad Duerrheim
> -
> > > my book lists Baden-Baden
> > > on 6320 then later came Rohrdorf 7265 from SWF.
> > > Frankfurt Main in 1951 had a
> > > 1kW transmitter on 6190 - there is one listed at
> > > Kassel too same frequency
> > > but 10kW. This would be HR. So I would guess
> that
> > > the call signs you quote
> > > could refer to these. I have an old NDR
> > > NordenOsterloog QSL in my collection
> > > dated 1963 but no call signs are indicated
> adjacent
> > > to the frequency. As
> > > probably you know, the WWII German SW stations
> used
> > > prefixes such as DXB
> > > etc. so I would guess that the DM series are
> post
> > > WWII.
> > >
> > > It is a very interesting subject and I wish you
> luck
> > > in your quest to find
> > > more.
> > > Best 73 from Noel


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