read also the intermodulations with MW Abis 774 kHz ...
EGYPT TDOA und unbekannte Musikstation mit aegyptischen Saengern
.
The station seems to use the same transmitter site as Radio Cairo.
As a test transmission was heard using the same transmitter problems
as Radio Cairo.
(see N&O Newsletter 222, E25 / E25a transmission 6140, 9450 kHz)
<http://www.numbersoddities.nl/newsletters.html>
<http://www.numbersoddities.nl/N&O-222.pdf>
PDF Seite 10:
"... Qsr711 reports that E25 uses Radio Cairo's Abu Zabal transmitter
site. You can hear that it is the same transmitter. Check the recordings
on the N&O website. We already knew that E25 also uses Radio Cairo's
Abis transmitter site. The logs are submitted by qsr711 and PW2..."
<http://www.numbersoddities.nl/Index.pdf>
#222 Picture E25 transmitter site at Abis
#222 Picture E25 transmitter site at Abu Zabal
<https:www.numbers-stations.com/ns/english/e25/>
"...First reported in 2000. Originally used live voices read by males,
then used a very unique automated woman. Errors are common in
transmissions, from computer tones, to hearing the operators playing a
computer game, to the transmission just screwing up in general (no music
intro, the transmission cutting out, or just not happening at all).
Music is usually from musician Umm Kulthum, but can vary. Needless to
say, E25 is in dire need of component, consistent operators (and perhaps
a better voice). Emits in AM and/or USB"
An Insight into E25 Transmissions by Manolis of Greece:
<http://www.signalshed.com/docs/E25report.pdf>
(via Roger Thauer-D, A-DX June 1, 2019)
and of 2015:
"Well I have been following that music station for sometime now ... they
are on 9500/9550/9600 kHz varying from 09:00 to 12:00 UT, but can't make a
steady schedule. But I think this is the Egyptian station E25 which used
to transmit numbers on 9450 kHz around 1200-1300 UT. No ID given, just the
normal test tone of Egypt followed by songs varying from classic old
Egyptian songs to up to date songs released a few years back in Egypt."
(wb, wwdxc BC-DX TopNews Aug 15, 2015)
UNIDentified station with Arabic music
1030-1040 9400 unknown tx, August 16
1030-1035 9400 unknown tx, August 13
1050-1100 9600 unknown tx, August 13
(Ivo Ivanov-BUL, hcdx via wwdxc BC-DX TopNews Aug 18, 2015)
and of 2013:
EGYPT 11116.008 kHz Arabic singer, like Egyptian music in the 60ties and
70ties under Pres Nasser, 2130-2200 UT March 10, 2013.
UNIDentified Arabic program on odd channel. Heard in Perseus net in
Nuremberg, northern Germany, on Universitty remote receiver at Twente The
Netherlands
<http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/>
in Kiev and Vienna, also in northern Italy.
(wb, wwdxc BC-DX TopNews March 10)
However, WRTH shows 774 site is Abis, the other one. So now they would
both have to be at the same site, one or the other, for this theory to
work. Perhaps there was a recent site change, which would explain why this
just now showed up.
(Glenn Hauser-OK-USA, dxld March 11, 2013)
Just a thought, 11116 plus 774 is = 11890 kHz. Is there Egyptian broadcast
at that time on 11890 kHz from the same site? Could then be tx site mixing
product.
(Jari Savolainen-FIN, dxld March 11, 2013)
Strange though - but puzzle solved:
hfcc: 11890 2115-2245 27,28 ABS 200 325 0 211 English EGY ERU
325 degr would fit to cover western Europe, even on very small
INTERMODULATION power signal...
11116.008 kHz Arabic singer, like Egyptian music in the 60ties and 70ties
under Nasser, 2130-2200 UT March 10.
Abis-EGY broadcast 11890 kHz is weak signal S=5-6 in southern Germany
tonight, came on air 21.11:00 UT March 11, but left for a short break
21.13:20 UT again.
After one minute back on air, but still weak tonight.
Intermodulation 11116 kHz came also on air at same time 21.11:00 UT but
left also 21.13:20 UT. At start appearance 11116 was much stronger
at S=8- 9 level,
never any low power INTERMODULATION signal, this was a real 100 kW
shortwave broadcast, but lasted for two minutes only ... !
Latter appeared again now, but channel signal is very weak and distorted
on threshold level. More like question mark occurred, still a puzzle what
happens on the SW antenna matrix or feederline at Abis bcast center site,
towards 11890 kHz curtain array.
MW Abis also on 774 kHz, former 1000 kW powerhouse, now 500 kW reduced?,
4-mast like BBC / Marconi design of Cyprus / Oman Masirah etc.
Abis 774 kHz MW - to shortwave at ABZ would not work, distance already 156
kilometers ...
There is any formula for the other 9.4 to 9.448 MHz Enigma E25 outlet?
often heard in past 2 decades with same Nasser era like songs of the
60ties/70ties ? Also reported by Rumen in the past ...
[later] Thanks Ivo, now at 0020 UT March 12, right another Abis
INTERMODULATION outlet, acc formula:
9965 minus 774 kHz = 9191.012 kHz.
S=7-8 signal strength here in southern Germany. Stronger signal in
Stuttgart Germany than 11116 kHz this night.
I guess it was 9990 kHz minus 774 kHz, noted some few years ago ...
(wb, wwdxc BC-DX TopNews March 10/11/12, 2013)
2115-2245 UT on 11890 minus 774 = 11116 kHz
2300-0030 UT on 9965 minus 774 = 9191 kHz
(Ivo Ivanov-BUL, via wwdxc BC-DX TopNews March 11, 2013)
11116 March 11 at 2202 UT, nothing audible, altho R. Cairo English is on
11890 kHz, good level fair signal, but modulation distorted. 11116 kHz was
a big mystery heard mainly in Europe, and then Tarek Zeidan in Egypt
recognized 11116 kHz as "Middle East Radio (MW 774 kHz and FM 89.5 MHz) in
Cairo, first time to hear them on SW. The Arabic ID is Idhaat Elsharq
Elawsat".
Guess what, 11890 minus 774 kHz = 11116 kHz, so it's a mixture between SW
and MW transmitters at the Abis site, possible on 11116 kHz only during
the 2115-2245 UT English broadcast on 11890 kHz.
Wolfgang Bueschel says it's intermittent. The 774 mix would also explain
the previous strange frequency from Egypt, 9191 kHz, 774 kHz below 9965
kHz which is on at 2300-0430 UT, so be on the lookout for anything else
774 kHz away from an Abis R. Cairo frequency.
(Glenn Hauser-OK-USA, dxld March 12, 2013)
Hello Wolfy, now this is interesting. This is the "Middle East Radio
program of MW 774 kHz and FM 89.5 MHz in Cairo, first time to hear them
on shortwave. The Arabic ID is "Idhaat Elsharq Elawsat".
[later] Great analysis, but the Q remains the same ... why would ERTU
brodcast "Middle East Radio" instead of the General Program or Radio Cairo
in any language.
(Tarek Zeidan-EGY SU1TZ, dxld March 11, 2013)
Recording of "Middle East Radio" was made after 22.00 UT news cast, is
0000 LT in EGY, wrth Egypt entry show Abis 774 "Program 5 - Middle East
Program" too.
Checked also 11890 + 774 kHz = 12664 kHz tonight. - Negative ...
(wb, wwdxc BC-DX TopNews March 11, 2013)
ENIGMA sign number broadcast E25 and E11 carried the very same program
also in the past decades. (wb.)
of April 2008:
NUMBER STN. 9450.00 special FOUR number station in English noted on Wed
Apr 16th 2008, at 1300 UT. S=8 signal in Germany. "E25 Arab Man station"
Egyptian intelligence sce.?? (wb)
of May 2007:
[not LIBYA, rather EGYPT]
Test? on 9450 ended at approx. 0903 UT.
Re: 9450 noted today Apr 30 again. I came on the band around 0730 UT and
heard Arabic orchestra and singer continously til 08.31:15 UT. Then noted
a 1000 Hertz whistle check tone for about 2 minutes, Now since 0833 UT the
program continues[til 0903 UT].
re: 9450 seemingly NOT from Libya. Insider sent me a reply, that the UNID
Arabic station 9450 which we heard on Apr 29 and 30th at about 0745 to
0903 UT, was really music from Egyptian intelligence service station.
(wb, wwdxc BC-DX May 1, 2007)
Thanks for the interesting reply! Sometimes there is odd numbers being
called just after the music! Check this web site out.
<http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/thesecretsiteofmike/num/01/spy01.htm>
Looking at E25.
(Mike, May 1, 2007)
Well that's what we call Number station ... that station (off the record
of course) is coming from Egypt, as number stations follower we call it
E25, the main transmission for that station with messages is between 12.00
and 13.00 UT normally they start around either 12.00 or 12.15 or 12.30 or
12.45 all the transmissions start with OM Kalthoum the legendary Egyptian
singer for like 4 minutes mainly with one of two songs aroouh lemeen ...
whom should I go to ... or Inta O'mry ... you are my life. Been following
that station for sometime now ... the messages are mainly numbers in
English and Arabic sometimes.
I used to pick them up worming up around 07.00 UT as well with non stop OM
Kalthoum song for like 45 Min or so, so by all means this is ain't Libya
this is the voice of the Egyptian secret service ...
For better refrences and Audio files as well ... check my friend's blog
Manolis from Greece. He's a great follower of that station ... check his
blog for E25 records ... you'll be amazed:
<http://hfsurfing.blogspot.com>
And for more info about that station's history check Simon Masons
wonderful website for number stations:
<http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page410.htm>
I'm sure you'd enjoy reading that site as well ... will brings lot's of
memories for you I guess ... specially about Stasi's stations ... in the
80s and early 90s :)
<http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/page30.html>
"From at least 0800z to 1322z E25 was on air playing oriental music. At my
QTH, signal strength was constant S9+. Towards the end of this lengthy
test (?) session a song was repeated again and again several times ..."
hello xxx, as usual Um Kalthoum with a song called HOB AYIH what's Love,
she's blaming her lover for causing her so much pain ! one of her
classicals as usual. Nice catch my friend. yours xxx 1 May, 2007.
As usual Um Kalthoum with a song called HOB AYIH what's Love,
she's blaming her lover for causing her so much pain ! one of her
classicals as usual.
----- Original Message -----
From: Arthur Pozner <aspozner@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WOR] Mystery Station via E25 Rebeat transmitter, February 23
It appears to me that in Egyptian Arabic the letter P is not pronounced or
used in the same exact way as in English. It is actually the sound of B.
Especially in the Cairo dialect...On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 2:05 PM Ivo Ivanov < wrote:
Repeat is Povtorenie - in Bulgarian languageOn Tue, 23 Feb 2021, 18:01 Ivo Ivanov via groups.io, <ivo.observer=
gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Woman voice of the recording REBEAT, not REPEAT
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021, 16:45 Wolfgang Bueschel, wrote:
https://www.numbers-stations.com/ns/english/e25/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Hauser via groups.io" <wghauser=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WOR] Mystery Station via E25 Rebeat transmitter, Febr 23
> ?? What and where is this ``Rebeat transmitter``? Where did you get
that name/word? Glenn
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 10:55:16 AM GMT+1, Ivo Ivanov
> <ivo.observer@gmail.com> wrote:
> EGYPT Mystery Station via E25 Rebeat transmitter, February 23:
> 0925-0930 on 9400 unknown tx / unknown to ????, 1000Hz tone and
> 0930-0940 on 9400 unknown tx / unknown to ????, Egyptian music.
> Fair to good via SDR Tambov Russia, over very weak signal of RTI
> at same time 9400 PAO 100 kW / 205 deg to EaAs Amoy R.Taiwan Int
> -- 73! Ivo Ivanov
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