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Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
A bit more checking and I think I may get the height for the Super KAZ, even if the bottom of it is 7-8 feet off the ground and KAZ said I could use a ratio of 1:5 rather than 1:4. Has anyone used a Super KAZ on the Pacific Coast? I have a straight shot less than a mile from the Pacific Ocean here and the EWE's work well. If the Super KAZ will out perform my EWE, that will be amazing as that EWE has been jewel for me. But again, it will be a while as it has been wet nearly every day for weeks and the next week or more continues to be stormy and wet. It has been a VERY wet Winter. We have broken all sorts of records on rainfall, both here and even in Portland. A few weeks ago we did have 2-3 days that were fairly dry.
Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager
> From: charlesh3@xxxxxxx
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> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 02:33:31 +0000
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
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> Try a Flag, Pennant or Delta (Kaz), preferably the latter.
>
> Chuck
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> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
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> Chuck,
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> Both John Bryant and I felt that the EWE had coastal properties. They work well for me, but I am not against trying something new. After all I have a stretch that runs about 100- 125 feet running East/West. I did try out a K9AY some years ago that did well but had low gain. I logged two new lp Filipinos I had never logged before or since. The wet soil here, being a mile from the Pacific is briny. It is supposed to be fresh water, but there is still a salt taste to it. I always figured it got some of the salt from the ocean. Any suggestions on what I might put up instead of a EWE?
>
> Patrick
>
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
>
> > From: charlesh3@xxxxxxx
> > To: irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 18:59:19 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> >
> > Patrick:
> >
> > You can't use Colin's box. Modifications would have to be made to it and to your transformer box. Perhaps the next version of Colin's box will have a bit of flexibility.
> > I'd scrap the EWE: it has by far the poorest antenna pattern in the EWE-Flag-Pennant-Delta (Kaz) group. Plus, it's ground dependence means a bit of change to the termination as seasons vary the soil characteristics.
> > Wet soil doesn't generate voltages all by itself. It might corrode things, but that's a different story.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: IRCA <irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Patrick Martin <mwdxer@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:49 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> >
> > Chuck and Colin,
> >
> > So it looks like the best way is not to use this for the EWE the way it is designed? I may have to build a different antenna, one that is floating, a K9AY, a Flag, or a KAZ antenna? Any form of a "loop" is my best antenna to use? I was concerned about any form of voltage/current in the ground. Our soil is swampy and very wet most of the year. The grounding always enhances the TP reception here, so I like to use it. John Bryant and I always used to discuss that, as in OK it never made any difference.
> > My EWE's are all Ground connected. At the far end is a control (2-3K pot) that runs between a series of ground rods and the end of the EWE for termination. I peak the pot for a null and leave it.
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> >
> > > From: coffeecanuck@xxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:00:57 -0800
> > > To: irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> > >
> > > Mark Connelly or one of the guru's likely has a better answer - I have been using a very vanilla arrangement with the power coax going directly to the termination -
> > > I do not think you could run the ground side of the connection via ground rods if that is what you are suggestion - at least with the 9-10 V source from my Vactrol supply.
> > >
> > > Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
> > >
> > > > On Mar 5, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Martin <mwdxer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Colin,
> > > >
> > > > As you know I am going to be using this on a EWE, with one side of the control to a series of ground rods and the other to the end of the EWE. Does this matter? There may be some current in the ground as the soil is so wet here and I live next to a swamp. I plan a new Western EWE at 20X115X20 in the backyard and I will be using the Vactrol there.
> > > > On another note, I have that SW EWE I have had since 1981. I cannot run a cable through the land over to the end of it because in the Winter often the wire would be under 2-3 feet of wire as it is a swampy cattle raising field. Now, I wonder if I could attach a wire to the EWE and follow the end down to the far end, getting the power to it? I could avoid running wire through the lake out there in the Winter, also the cows could not step on it. But would the extra power cable running next to the EWE affect the operation of it? Any thoughts from anyone
> > > > I am hoping the the new Western EWE will rival the SW EWE, as getting to the termination of the SW is not as easy as it once was with the electric fencing and all.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Patrick
> > > >
> > > > Patrick Martin
> > > > Seaside OR
> > > > KGED QSL Manager
> > > >
> > > >> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:01:10 -0800
> > > >> From: coffeecanuck@xxxxxxxxx
> > > >> To: irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> Subject: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> > > >>
> > > >> I have had around 9 orders or so for VACTROL sets --
> > > >>
> > > >> Went out and spent around $500 for parts on Friday -
> > > >>
> > > >> If anyone is interested in a bit more info on what they are and what they
> > > >> do,
> > > >> head over here -
> > > >> http://www.dxer.ca/index.php/our-stuff/19-vactrol-for-the-dxer
> > > >>
> > > >> This article will grow a little every day.
> > > >>
> > > >> Many thanks for the advance orders on these units - will knock them off as
> > > >> fast as possible.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Colin Newell - Editor and creator *of *Coffeecrew.com
> > > >> <http://www.Coffeecrew.com> and DXer.ca <http://www.DXer.ca> -
> > > >> VA7WWV | Twitter @CoffeeCrew | Victoria - Canada
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