Re: [IRCA] TP from Michigan: More audio posted

[d1028gary@xxxxxxx]

Chuck,

<<<   Hiroo Nakagawa is one of Japan's top DXers and has a lot of experience. 
A lot.

I wouldn't worry about him turning up the volume and wearing headphones.

As a native speaker of Japanese and given his experience, I value his 
opinion very highly.   >>>

I certainly don't doubt Hiroo's experience (or yours).

But in order to assist Tim in identifying the language in a very challenging MP3, concrete evidence of the language's identity needs to be reported (and investigated, if necessary). In an exceptional but very marginal recording like Tim's 747 TP reception, he deserves nothing less.

73, Gary




-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck <charlesh3@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 3:31 pm
Subject: Re: [IRCA] TP from Michigan: More audio posted


Gary -

Hiroo Nakagawa is one of Japan's top DXers and has a lot of experience. 
A lot.

I wouldn't worry about him turning up the volume and wearing headphones.

As a native speaker of Japanese and given his experience, I value his 
opinion very highly.

Chuck

On 10/2/2013 3:14 PM, d1028gary@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> Chuck,
>   
> Tim's 747 recording is at a very marginal level, and nobody is going to pick 
anything out of the recording unless he puts on very sensitive headphones, turns 
up the volume, and listens carefully for any possible syllable connections to 
form a word pattern. The problem in this MP3 is that no such pattern can be 
heard until very well into the recording, at 4:16 into the YouTube video. If 
your Japanese contact didn't do all of the above (use high sensitivity 
headphones, turn up the volume, and listen carefully throughout the entire 
length of the MP3, assuming that he has the patience to do so), he wouldn't have 
discovered anything.
>
> Nevertheless, if you can direct your Japanese friend's attention to the phrase  
"ano... dookaku no" at 4:16 into the YouTube video, I'm pretty sure that he will 
confirm the language as Japanese. After consulting a Japanese dictionary for a 
precise translation, the phrase "ano..  dookaku no"  in Japanese means "well... 
the same amount of..." in English.
>
> 73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA)
>
>    
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck <charlesh3@xxxxxxx>
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<irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 9:42 am
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] TP from Michigan: More audio posted
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>
> I could not say this was Japanese so I passed it along to Japanese DXer
> Hiroo Nakagawa. His response:
>
> "I listened to it carefully. But even I Japanese native speaker can’t
> judge the language. As I can’t pick up any word, I can’t say for sure
> that it is Japanese."
>
> Chuck
>
>
> On 9/30/2013 7:31 PM, d1028gary@xxxxxxx wrote:
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> <<<   I appreciate the comments regarding my first reception of presumed 
Japan
>> on 747 on Sunday morning.  I've posted a longer recording to Youtube,
>> actually a recording of the SDR capture.  The video begins using a
>> narrow filter and is then repeated using a wider filter.  Some faint
>> talk can be heard.  Perhaps someone with more experienced ears than mine
>> can take a guess at the language heard here (headphones recommended!):
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDIfnApY0o&feature=youtu.be   >>>
>>
>> Thanks for posting the longer recording of your 747 kHz TP reception on
> YouTube.
>> I've listened to the recording with headphones, as recommended. At 4:16 into
> the video the male speaker uses a phrase which pretty much indicates that the
> language is Japanese ("ano... dookaku no") which roughly translates as "no
> matter what..." in English. He is using more intonation than what is commonly
> used in the monotone-styled Japanese language, but this is possibly an attempt
> to make the speech more interesting for a radio listener. My own opinion is 
that
> the speech is Japanese, although other TP-DXers may have further comments
> (especially in how the program matches up to the NHK2 archives). BTW, I lived 
in
> Japan as a high school brat (1967-69).
>> 73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA)
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tim Tromp <kilokat7@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: irca <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:34 pm
>> Subject: [IRCA] TP from Michigan: More audio posted
>>
>>
>> I appreciate the comments regarding my first reception of presumed Japan
>> on 747 on Sunday morning.  I've posted a longer recording to Youtube,
>> actually a recording of the SDR capture.  The video begins using a
>> narrow filter and is then repeated using a wider filter.  Some faint
>> talk can be heard.  Perhaps someone with more experienced ears than mine
>> can take a guess at the language heard here (headphones recommended!):
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDIfnApY0o&feature=youtu.be
>>
>> 73,
>> Tim Tromp
>> West Michigan
>>
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