[IRCA] Fwd: Re: [Amdx] Re KHMO and DX alerts

[Todd <todftscytj7707@xxxxxxx>]

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Subject: Re: [Amdx] [IRCA] Re KHMO and DX alerts
From: Todd <todftscytj7707@xxxxxxx>
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CC: Re: [Amdx] [IRCA] Re KHMO and DX alerts

Hi,
This is my 2 cents worth: this is a HARDCORE radio club. I believe that this site is for the hardcore DX'ERS. This site exists for other hardcore dx'ers to help other hardcore dx'ers. We are here to be positive in giving other dx'ers tips that may net them their closest unheard. In my case my #1300 station was just recently heard was a daytimer 1530 England, AR on at night. If Bill hadn't of posted that tip, I would still be at 1299.


Todd Skaine 
Woodbury, MN
2010, PL 310 or 
Toyota radio

George Santulli <gsantulli@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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>Saul, I will put in my two cents worth at the risk of being hung out to dry... I started my current TV career in radio...at age 15...got the requisite Third..Second and eventually First Class FCC license, all now deceased. I understand the sensitivities of day pattern vs night pattern etc. But for goodness sake...it was not like KHMO was leaking Plutonium...it was an error and my view...is ...no big deal. It did not kill off goldfish or wombats in nearby Quincy...it was just a radio station left inadvertanly on day power or pattern. I once had a job at now long gone KKIO in Santa Barbara, CA. We were a daytimer on 1290 khz, maybe 5kw day, can't remember. But it was a daytimer for sure. I had the "signoff" shift and a few times, even after I went through the arduous task of shutting the XMTR link off, there were times that the carrier was left on. I lived 40 miles from the station and did have to go back a few times to re-cycle the shutdown procedure. It was a rather complica
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> ted process and don't remember the details, only that a few times, the carrier was left on. I would get home and the CE of KCUB in Tucson would call to remind me that "we were still on the air", technically, because the carrier was on and people on the westside of Tucson, were complaining of a loss of fidelity etc. As far as I remember, no one was fried by my little carrier left on, no cats jumping off rooftops. Sure it was not right according to the rules...but.. So while I understand that by FCC regs a station with a specific night pattern must adhere to the "rules", but in the big picture we get so few breaks these days, wouldn't it have been nice to give some folks a shot at a normally hard to get station?  No one wants the CE to get into trouble, but it was not deliberate. That is my view. Okay...bring out the cross, the wooden nails and let it be... George in Virginia > From: sauldx@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: am@xxxxxxxxxxx; irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; amfmtvdx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; amdx@xxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:13:33 +0000
>> Subject: [IRCA] Re KHMO and DX alerts
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>> I posted the one and only tip on this one, and word came through that my post to these lists led to the broadvaster being immediately alerted to the situation. So that even a couple minutes later, when other DXers tried for it, KHMO was gone. My first instinct was to sit on the fence, and I still understand the desire to let a friend in the industry know immediately when something is awry. But I think this poses a dilemma for those of us who do post tips - and compared to the total number of list subscribers, those of us who post alerts are extremely few in number. If I post to a public list such as this, the risk is that by doing so I am potentially putting the kaibosh on the DX opportunity. This is not what my intent is when posting alerts. And it stands to make me think twice about where I post such alerts in the future, or whether I post them a few days after I have privately alerted a few people who I know to be interested in chasing a signal such as this. Is this rea
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>>  y what we want?  I realize that we can't and shouldn't dictate what people on the lists choose to do with the information. And I am also sensitive to a broadcaster or engineer, on this list or even not on this list, who may cringe at the thought their signal is getting out improperly. And I have absolutely no problem with someone alerting an engineer a day or more afterwards. I've done that myself with stations *chronically* having signal issues. But this experience re KHMO creates a dilemma for me, and the only way I can see resolving that dilemma is to find another, more discreet way to alert DXers who I know will want to chase the signal. Someone help me work through this one... Saul  		 	   		  
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