Re: [IRCA] Opinions requested on documenting station swaps

["James Niven" <jniven@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

For me, if the station changes frequency or city of license, then I count as a new station. 
As for Call letter or format changes I do re-log the station but it does not add to my totals since there is no change at the transmitter site.

This is my 2 cents worth.....

James Niven
Cedar Creek, Texas

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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Opinions requested on documenting station swaps

My approach is, I guess, to log the actual stick in
the ground (the tower/antenna) on a given frequency.
 If the same antenna switches frequency, then for me
it would be a new station.  However, I treat call
sign changes about the same way I would treat format
changes, and note them as sorta cosmetic changes on
the same station.

The one thing I am on the fence about is where the
station gets approval for a pattern and/or power
change.  For example, KRKO-1380 up here recently went
to a jillion watts compared to what they were putting
out before, and have a new tower, transmitter and
IBOC exciter (sigh...).  Logging them now is a lot
easier than it was.  For someone in Montana, they
went from being a tough catch to perhaps a pest. 
It's as if there is a completely different station
there from a DXing point of view, yet they have the
same physical location and frequency.  What to do?

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA


------- Original Message -------
>From    : Russ Edmunds[mailto:wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent    : 1/18/2011 5:01:57 AM
To      : irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc      : 
Subject : RE: Re: [IRCA] Opinions requested on
documenting station swaps

 To me these are call changes. I note them in my
logs, ( and would do so again should they change
again down the road ) but I don't count them in my
totals.

I know that others do things differently, but many do
it this way also.

At one time, I counted call changes, however I
realized that as the different calls had no effect on
my ability to hear the station or not, and the
facilities were the same, that counting them no
longer made sense, so I re-did my logs at the time to
that effect.

Russ Edmunds
15 mi NNW of Philadelphia  
Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx>
FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15';
Grundig G8
AM:  Modified Sony ICF 2010's barefoot


--- On Tue, 1/18/11, Mike Hawkins
<michael.d.hawkins@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Mike Hawkins <michael.d.hawkins@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [IRCA] Opinions requested on documenting
station swaps
> To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club
of America" <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 3:13 AM
> I'm playing with radio station
> history again and I'm doing battle with
> myself about how to document station swaps.  I'll give
> two examples.
> 
> Example #1:  A few years back, KLOC/920/Ceres CA
> format moved to
> KVIN/1390/Turlock CA, and the KVIN format moved over to
> KLOC.  The call
> letters swapped with the format change.  From a
> listener's perspective, that
> is a frequency change and the city change is
transparent to
> the listener.
> >From the FCC perspective, its two call letter changes
> for two separate
> facilities and who cares about the formats.
> 
> Example #2:  Recently, KERN/1410/Bakersfield CA
> swapped formats and call
> letters with KERI/1180/Wasco CA.  As with example #1,
> the listener finds
> their favorite station on a new frequency, and the city
> change is
> transparent.  The FCC sees it as two call letter
> changes for two facilities.
> 
> I'm on the fence and looking for opinions on how this
> should be properly
> documented.
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