Re: [IRCA] Testing New SDR software

["HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS" <DAVID.HASCALL@xxxxxxxx>]

Are you sure about the market demand?  One of the messages stated (if I
read it correctly) that over 10,000 kits were sold.  If I read that
right - there will always be more sales for completed / tested / turnkey
units, or we would all be driving kit cars, right?  :)  Yes a niche
hobby like ours does dictate pricing but if more bands / features could
be added to appeal to hams, consumers (record games and talk shows like
a radio Tivo) or maybe broadcast professionals,  it may be doable at
some point.   

73,
Dave

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:35:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Testing New SDR software
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Not enough market demand to support anything at that price point. Let's
not forget that's a main reason why there are so few quality multiband
conventional radios available, and most of them are priced well above
that level.

Russ Edmunds
15 mi NNW of Philadelphia  
Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx>
FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'; Grundig G8
AM:? Modified Sony ICF 2010's barefoot


--- On Thu, 1/13/11, HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS <DAVID.HASCALL@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> From: HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS <DAVID.HASCALL@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Testing New SDR software
> To: irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 12:03 PM
> The Softrock receivers sound ultra
> cool.? Too bad that someone with some
> capital could not get a manufacturer to prototype and
> ultimately build
> it for the masses and put say a $225 price tag (built and
> tested) on it.
> MW DX'ers like myself, would love the Ensemble II
> option.? Heck even LW
> DX'ers and those who chase beacons might use it.
> 
> 73,
> Dave in Indy
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:43:14 -0800
> From: Nick Hall-Patch <nhp@xxxxxxxx>
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of
> America
> ??? <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Testing New SDR software
> Message-ID: <1294702994.4d2b999294944@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> -- 
> Nick Hall-Patch
> Victoria, BC
> 
> 
> from http://www.wb5rvz.com/sdr/:? 
> 
> Ensemble All-Band RX II
> 
> The SoftRock RX Ensemble Receiver Kit is essentially the
> Ensemble RX,
> but has an
> extra option allowing the user to build the HF or the LF
> version of the
> receiver.
> 
> In the first option, the Ensemble RX kit provides coverage
> of ham bands
> from
> 160-10m, in four different optional "super bands" (each
> with underlap
> and
> overlap within the parameters of the associated bandpass
> filter):
> 
> ???1. 160m - Continuous coverage from 1.8 to
> 2.0 MHz
> ???2. 80m and 40m - Continuous coverage from
> 3.5 to 7.3 MHz
> ???3. 30m, 20m, and 17m - Continuous
> coverage from 10.1 to 18.168 MHz
> ???4. 15m, 12m, and 10m - Continuous
> coverage from 21.0 to 29.7 MHz 
> 
> In the second option, the Ensemble RX II provides coverage
> of LF
> frequencies
> from approximately 160-10m, in four different optional
> "super bands"
> (each with
> underlap and overlap within the parameters of the
> associated bandpass
> filter):
> 
> ???1. Band 0: 1000m - Continuous coverage
> from 180 kHz to 480 kHz
> ???2. Band 1: 500m - Continuous coverage
> from 400 kHz to 800 kHz
> ???3. Band 2: 250m - Continuous coverage
> from 800 kHz to 1.6 MHz
> ???4. Band 3: 160m - Continuous coverage
> from 1.6 MHz to 3.0 MHz
> 
> ..............................................................
> 
> 
> Quoting Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> > Looks like the Softrock 160m version tunes only 1.8 to
> 2.0 mHz.
> > 
> > Russ Edmunds
> > 15 mi NNW of Philadelphia? 
> > Grid FN20id
> > <wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx>
> > FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15';
> Grundig G8
> > AM:? Modified Sony ICF 2010's barefoot
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 1/10/11, Nick Hall-Patch <nhp@xxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Nick Hall-Patch <nhp@xxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Testing New SDR software
> > > To: "Mailing list for the International Radio
> Club of America"
> > <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 3:00 PM
> > > If you're willing to do a fair bit of
> > > work (and learning and experimenting)
> > > yourself, then I suspect you can SDR for
> peanuts:
> > > 
> > > http://www.wb5rvz.com/sdr/
> > > 
> > > http://homepages.wightcable.net/~g4zfq/Si570.htm
> > > 
> > > This is the Softrock kit, versions of which can
> cover MW
> > > apparently.? I have no
> > > experience of these, but the very capable
> Sdr-radio
> > > software can run them (no
> > > cost)....prices under $100 for the hardware
> kits...when
> > > available.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > best wishes,
> > > 
> > > Nick
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Nick Hall-Patch
> > > Victoria, BC
> > > 
> > > 
> > >? 
> > > 
> > > Quoting "HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS" <DAVID.HASCALL@xxxxxxxx>:
> > > 
> > > > Agree - For me $850 may as well be $1000 or
> > > $2000.? I have never owned
> > > > an expensive rig for any bands that I DX
> on.?
> > > Look at the Sony HD Tuner
> > > > for FM DX'ing.? It competes against tuners
> > > costing five times as much.
> > > > I can justify a $70 purchase but not a $400
> one, just
> > > to DX the FM band.
> > > > Plus, I now have a decent tuner for general
> > > listening.? ? 
> > > > 
> > > > I am hoping that some less expensive SDR
> units
> > > eventually come to the
> > > > marketplace.? And when I mean "less
> expensive,"
> > > I'm talking below $250.
> > > > Obviously since these are not consumerist
> offerings,
> > > there is no mass
> > > > market discounts.? Unless somebody can try
> to
> > > mass market these as
> > > > something like "Tivo for radio" or some
> other way of
> > > generating mass
> > > > interest beyond DX'ers, the prices will
> probably stay
> > > above $500.
> > > > 
> > > > 73,
> > > > Dave in Indy
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > 
> > > > Message: 4
> > > > Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 11:44:54 -0800 (PST)
> > > > From: Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: Mailing list for the International Radio
> Club of
> > > America
> > > > ??? <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Testing New SDR
> software
> > > > Message-ID: <950067.37414.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset=iso-8859-1
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks Chuck and Nick, although in the one
> case, we're
> > > quibbling over $2
> > > > <g>. 
> > > > 
> > > > Even so, I have trouble justifying $850
> though. I
> > > don't think I've spent
> > > > that much cumulatively over my years in the
> hobby,
> > > considering two
> > > > HQ-150's and two ICF 2010's. For the record,
> I bought
> > > my first HQ-150
> > > > used in 1969.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Russ Edmunds
> > > > 15 mi NNW of Philadelphia? 
> > > > Grid FN20id
> > > > <wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/
> APS9B @15';
> > > Grundig G8
> > > > AM:? Modified Sony ICF 2010's barefoot
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- On Sat, 1/8/11, Nick Hall-Patch <nhp@xxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > From: Nick Hall-Patch <nhp@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Testing New SDR
> software
> > > > > To: "Mailing list for the International
> Radio
> > > Club of America"
> > > > <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 1:50
> PM
> > > > > Excalibur is $850 at Grove, 
> > > > > Russ....http://www.grove-ent.com/excalibur.html???Detailed
> > > > > review 
> > > > > appeared in DX Monitor just
> recently...and of
> > > course, none
> > > > > of the 
> > > > > analog receivers covered the full BCB
> either!?
> > > Mine
> > > > > cover one channel 
> > > > > at a time, and they need a separate
> audio
> > > recorder for that
> > > > > channel...
> > > > > 
> > > > > A bit more later.???This is an
> interesting
> > > > > topic, and I'm surprised 
> > > > > how few comments there have been on
> Mike's post
> > > so far.
> > > > > 
> > > > > best wishes,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nick
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > At 15:00 08-01-11, you wrote:
> > > > > >I was ( although I didn't say so )
> excluding
> > > the SDR-IQ
> > > > > completely 
> > > > > >on account of that very big
> limitation. If
> > > you want to
> > > > > cover the 
> > > > > >full BCB, it isn't happening today
> for under
> > > a grand so
> > > > > far as I know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Russ Edmunds
> > > > > >15 mi NNW of Philadelphia
> > > > > >Grid FN20id
> > > > > ><wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo
> T-450RDS w/ APS9B
> > > @15';
> > > > > Grundig G8
> > > > > >AM:? Modified Sony ICF 2010's
> barefoot
> > > > > >
> > > > 
> > > >

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