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Re: [IRCA] Possible Yahoo e-Group for Ultralighters
I think that a group that covers all Ultralight subjects (loggings,
modifications, etc.) makes the most sense. Too much fragmentation
leads to too much good stuff never being seen by people who could make
good use of it. I know a lot of great stuff has come up on some of the
closed lists but the DXing populace as a whole is blissfully ignorant
of much of it since it may not even be "Googlable" (... Mr. Webster, is
that a word ?).
Membership should be for anyone who asks the moderator to be a member:
pretty much a rubber stamp unless the moderator sees some convincing
reason why the person should not be allowed in (e.g. Bellabarba /
Smilksteen type blatant misdeeds in the hobby).
A reasonably open "membership" policy, versus the rather closed nature
of some other lists, would tend to spread the participation over a
global base. Participation would be frequent, varied, and lively: not
one post every two weeks. There would be "regulars" and then there
would be others who get a flash of interest, become active for a little
while, enrich our perspectives, and then drift off to other pursuits.
IRCA is largely perceived as a western US / western Canada club with
only light participation on the East Coast (e.g. many of our top DXers
- Dangerfield, Conti, et al. - send logs to NRC IDXD but not IRCA
DXWW-E). There is very little overseas participation. The Ultralight
List should not be tethered too tightly to any one club - NRC, IRCA,
MWC, or what-have-you.
That's my five cents worth.
Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA, USA
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Sent: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:52 am
Subject: Possible Yahoo e-Group for Ultralighters
A couple of people have mentioned a yahoo group for ultralighters
recently. As you know, there is one that I host called ultralight
hotrodding. It is more-or-less restricted to discussing either
electrical or mechanical modifications to ultralights, as the name
suggests. When I created the hotrodding yahoo group, I also created one
called "ultralightdx," just in case we ever wanted/needed to have a
discussion group not embedded in the general flow of the IRCA
discussion group. I wonder if the time has come to officially launch
that group???
Several things lead me to think that the time has come.... not to
abandon IRCA, but to have a separate discussion group to post the
voluminous loggings that some of us are achieving and to reach beyond
the bounds of the MW hobby (the crystal set community) and beyond the
shores of North America. Several people have asked me where to post
their loggings from the Sprint and other general activity. Rob Ross has
been very diligent at posting his logs on IRCA, but several others have
been reluctant to do so, since the "normal flow" of domestic DX
loggings does not appear in the IRCA chat group, but rather is
more-or-less restricted to the bulletin. I get the sense that most
folks wishing to post ultralight loggings wish to do so in some place
where they are clearly identified as ultralight loggings.
Honestly, I don't plan to submit domestic loggings except during a
contest.... that just isn't in my hobby vocabulary... and I don't get
much out of other folks domestic logs, I'm ashamed to say (probably
because there are no other ultralighters near me here in Oklahoma.
However, when I'm out in the NW, I'll be submitting both ultralight and
normal loggings of TPs (lord willin') and I would darn sure like to see
my ultralight loggings recognized as distinct from "normal" TP DXing.
Having a place for ultralight loggings would let me do that.
There are several other advantages to an ultralight yahoo group, of
course... the ability to attach audio clips and documents to messages,
the 100 MB of free storage for files, etc. Mostly, though, I wonder if
a yahoo group not associated with any particular MW club or country
wouldn't be a plus at this point in spreading the ultralight
addiction??? It would certainly strengthen sense of community within
the ultralight niche.
Personally, I would not like to have ultralight disappear from IRCA,
for IRCA's sake, as I think that the movement has been a breath of
fresh air for much of IRCA. However, from a narrow point of view, I
don't think that our continued presence on IRCA will gain us many more
ultralighters... everyone who is on IRCA and not yet an ultralighter
has probably heard more than they wish on the subject....
So, should we found a general ultralight yahoo group, still intending
some presence in IRCA and use of the bulletins and dxer.ca for articles
and a public presence???? Should we fold the ultralight hotrodding
group into the larger ultralight group or leave it as a highly
specialized venue.... or is the time just not right to do this now???
Or, is some separation from IRCA just a bad idea all around???
If you have thoughts, please "Reply All" so that everyone can share in
the discussion.
John B.
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