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Re: [IRCA] IRCA Digest, Vol 43, Issue 165
- Subject: Re: [IRCA] IRCA Digest, Vol 43, Issue 165
- From: n7sok@xxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:40:01 -0500
checked my tape for the WCXH-780 test, so far no luck
Frank N7sok
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: IBOC on 1640 Lake Oswego-Portland OR. (Patrick Martin)
2. Re: WCXH-780 DX Test, not (Nick Hall-Patch)
3. Re: WCXH-780 DX Test, not (Steve Ratzlaff)
4. Re: WCXH-780 DX Test, not (Patrick Martin)
5. Re: WCXH-780 DX Test, not (Bill Harms)
6. Re: WCXH-780 DX Test, not (Patrick Martin)
7. TPs for 11/26 (Bill Block)
8. TPs for 11-26-07 (vroomski@xxxxxxxxxxx)
9. KDZR 1640 (vroomski@xxxxxxxxxxx)
10. West Coast to Maine (and such phenomenae) (saulamdx)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:36:12 -0800
From: mwdxer@xxxxxxxxx (Patrick Martin)
Subject: Re: [IRCA] IBOC on 1640 Lake Oswego-Portland OR.
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Don,
Thanks for the info. I don't generally get them that strong here to note
if they were IBOC.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:37:10 +0000
From: Nick Hall-Patch <nhp@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] WCXH-780 DX Test, not
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At 02:46 26/11/2007, you wrote:
>I wasn't able to participate in the test, but I've listened to both Bill's
>and Barry's audio clips of the morse code--transcription follows:
>WCXH WCXH WCHX MONTICELLO, MAINE WCXH WCXH WCXH (14 upward-sweep tones
>follow the code)
You've probably seen some postings about our odd reception of code
during the test on 780 on the coast, Steve. If you've got a moment
could you listen to Walt's mp3 file in http://www3.telus.net/7dxr/4steve/
I think we have something spurious; I don't know why anyone would be
sending code at 1450Hz either....there are lots of recognizable
characters, but nothing joining up that I can hear from a quick listen.
Please let me know what you think. The east coast guys' stuff was a
snap in comparison!
best wishes,
Nick
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Nick Hall-Patch
Victoria, B.C.
Canada
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:53:36 -0800
From: "Steve Ratzlaff" <steveratz@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] WCXH-780 DX Test, not
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Hi Nick,
Walt sent it to me already; and Bruce Portzer. They both heard the same
spurious thing--some type of clicking that definitely wasn't morse code or
related to the real Maine DX Test; at least I didn't get anything resembling
morse code from Walt's or Bruce's. And it was much faster clicking than the
bonafide real DX Test code.
Sorry!
73,
Steve
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> You've probably seen some postings about our odd reception of code
> during the test on 780 on the coast, Steve. If you've got a moment
> could you listen to Walt's mp3 file in http://www3.telus.net/7dxr/4steve/
>
> I think we have something spurious; I don't know why anyone would be
> sending code at 1450Hz either....there are lots of recognizable
> characters, but nothing joining up that I can hear from a quick listen.
>
> Please let me know what you think. The east coast guys' stuff was a
> snap in comparison!
>
> best wishes,
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> ****************************************************************************
> Nick Hall-Patch
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:30:58 -0800
From: mwdxer@xxxxxxxxx (Patrick Martin)
Subject: Re: [IRCA] WCXH-780 DX Test, not
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Steve,
I just listened again to the tape and what I am hearing is morse code,
no clicking and I would guess about 10 wpm. Dave Williams can copy morse
code, so maybe I should run it over to him, but it sounds like code to
me. Infact both times do.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 04:33:27 -0500
From: Bill Harms <philcobill@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] WCXH-780 DX Test, not
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Patrick, Do you have a recording that you could share over the internet?
Patrick Martin wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I just listened again to the tape and what I am hearing is morse
> code, no clicking and I would guess about 10 wpm. Dave Williams can
> copy morse code, so maybe I should run it over to him, but it sounds
> like code to me. Infact both times do.
>
> 73,
>
Bill Harms
Elkridge, Maryland
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:10:21 -0800
From: mwdxer@xxxxxxxxx (Patrick Martin)
Subject: Re: [IRCA] WCXH-780 DX Test, not
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Bill,
I cannot with Web TV. If I could fiqure it out, I probably could send it
with the computer. But, I am going over to see Dave Williams (Extra
Class Ham) who knows code pretty well.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:24:45 +0000
From: Bill Block <billwblock@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [IRCA] TPs for 11/26
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Good morning
Listened from 1250-1410 UT and only heard one carrier on 594 at 1355 UT and it
was very weak.
Bill Block
Prescott Valley, AZ
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:12:21 +0000
From: vroomski@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [IRCA] TPs for 11-26-07
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Good Morning:
.
Listen from 1335-1508. Conditons very poor this morning. JOUB 774 with just
very weak audio.
153 Russia, 1338 weak with man in Russian.
273 Russia, 1429 very weak with woman in Russian.
774 Japan, JOUB 1457 very weak with woman in Japanese.
Dennis,
Vancouver, WA
Solar Indices SF 71 A 13 K 3
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:26:40 +0000
From: vroomski@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [IRCA] KDZR 1640
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Don,
KDZR 1640 Radio Disney is S-9+50 db here at 7:21 AM PST. Their hash is S-9+25
db on 1630 & S-9+30 db on 1650.
KEX 1190 hash is S9 +35 db 10 hz either side.
Dennis,
Vancouver, WA
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:35:14 -0800 (PST)
From: saulamdx <saulamdx@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [IRCA] West Coast to Maine (and such phenomenae)
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Is it possible that the signal was somehow distorted
in its relatively lengthy route to your radios on the
west coast, and that the speed of the code seemed
different? The time of this test was possibly optimum
for the west coast. Every report I've seen of
DXpeditions on the northern east coast (NB, NF)
suggests receptions to western Canada and nw U.S. just
before local (east coast) sunrise. I had the same
experience in NFLD last month...1700 just before
sunrise, also 1050 and 1290 in MB... and Jim Renfrew
had a tentative 1000 in Seattle around the same time
frame. The DXers at Miscou have often had BC and AB
stations, like this. This phenomenon strikes me as
almost as interesting as pulling in Europe, Asia and
Africa, and also makes me wonder if the right antennae
- direction-wise etc - would make the coastal Canadian
maritimes ripe for logging trans-pacifics and down
under.
I hope to go again, and I hope to set up some
experimental wires.
--- Steve Ratzlaff <steveratz@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I wasn't able to participate in the test, but I've
> listened to both Bill's
> and Barry's audio clips of the morse
> code--transcription follows:
> WCXH WCXH WCHX MONTICELLO, MAINE WCXH WCXH WCXH (14
> upward-sweep tones
> follow the code)
> Note the third code group is an erroneous
> transposition of the station
> callsign! The speed indeed is slow--one could write
> the dots and dashes down
> and then decipher them afterwards with a code table,
> even if one didn't know
> the code, at that slow speed. LF NDB's use similar
> slow code for that very
> reason--the pilot can copy the dots and dashes and
> look up the ident if he
> really wants to verify the signal on a particular
> frequency is the one he's
> expecting.
> The use of a comma (dah dah di di dah dah) following
> the city is not often
> heard. I used to copy the merchant marine press
> broadcasts sent to ships at
> sea--since the copy being broadcast was
> machine-generated, it used all the
> various morse code punctuation
> characters--parentheses, semicolons, etc.
> Most of those characters would only be heard on
> those press broadcasts and
> nowhere else.
> Best regards,
> Steve AA7U
> NE Oregon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Pogue" <KH2AR@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'Mailing list for the International Radio Club
> of America'"
> <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 3:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] WCXH-780 DX Test
>
>
> >I prepared the code and indeed it was 10 wpm.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Barry McLarnon
> > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:05 PM
> > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club
> of America
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] WCXH-780 DX Test
> >
> > Since there seems to be some confusion about the
> nature of the code
> > (tone frequency, speed) sent during this test, I
> thought it would be
> > useful to post a clip that you folks out west can
> use for comparison
> > to what you heard:
> >
>
http://topazdesigns.com/ambc/audio/wcxh-780-0450-24nov07.mp3
> >
> > It sounds very close to 1 kHz to me, and maybe 10
> wpm or so. There
> > are also some sweeps at the end of the clip.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Barry
> >
> > --
> > Barry McLarnon VE3JF Ottawa, ON
>
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