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Re: [IRCA] Dump AM IBOC HD TV comments
- Subject: Re: [IRCA] Dump AM IBOC HD TV comments
- From: "Norbert 26" <starship_2001@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:57:05 GMT
I just got back from wallyworld and was looking at the TVs . YES they do have standard defination TVs out now with the digital tuners (also analog too).
Also converters are supposed to be coming on the market before the analog drop dead date that will allow existing analog TVs to continue receiving OTA signals by converting the digital signal to analog .
QUOTE:
Kevin,
HDTV is not mandated. Digital TV is and it is only over the air. Those
who have Direct TV, Dish, or cable will not be affected. The only thing
here will be the over the air translators. I guess if I want to continue
getting Portland TV, I will have to get a digital tuner. I will, or
maybe I will buy an HDTV set by that time. But no, HDTV is not mandated,
just going digital is. Are there are digital TV sets out there now that
are not HDTV? I have not seen any analog sets with a digital tuner
inside. Some HDTV sets even come without the digital tuner. That is not
going to do the OTA viewers much good, but again most people are wired
for satellite or cable anyway.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager
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Today's Topics:
1. NE Oregon TPs, Thursday (Steve Ratzlaff)
2. Central Oregon TPs, Thursday (beansdad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
3. Early AMtoday (chris and anne)
4. Re: Central Oregon TPs, Thursday (CHARLES HUTTON)
5. Stations Heard Last Night (Rene Tetro)
6. Weak Kneed Try (The Kaskey Family)
7. Re: Central Oregon TPs, Thursday (beansdad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
8. KKPZ 1330 is now IBOC (Patrick Martin)
9. Re: Dump AM IBOC, Move the AM Band, re:HDTV comment
(Patrick Martin)
10. Montana DX Test Update (KEIN 1310khz) (Les Rayburn)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:31:14 -0700
From: "Steve Ratzlaff" <steveratz@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [IRCA] NE Oregon TPs, Thursday
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Much better Pacific conditions this morning, with strong hets on many
channels, and audio on 8 MW freqs. Far East Russian LWBC was exceptional,
with 153 and 189 giving true armchair-level reception (9/10 rating) for
about 40 minutes. I was still listening at 1500 utc when the time pips were
given and all the stations abruptly left the air without anything else
transmitted. (PAL says 1600 signoff, but perhaps they're using daylight
savings time now.) It's been a long time since I had them in so strong, and
lasting so long.
Steve
NE Oregon
R75, longwires
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:53:10 -0700
From: beansdad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [IRCA] Central Oregon TPs, Thursday
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Hets on almost every split when I dropped off a visitor at the airport at 1230UT (0530 PT).
On returning home, the upper end of the dial had weakened considerably, but HLAZ-1566 was
still hanging in there. Also, audio on 594, 648, 693, 774, and 828. I swear 648 was JJ, but I don't
see a likely target. Are there any higher-powered JJs on 648? Soft-spoken female announcer in Japanese at 1340.
774 was once again strongest (completely listenable) at 1415UT; all signals gone by 1500.
Dave Williams
Redmond, OR
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:10:04 -0400
From: "chris and anne" <tantwo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [IRCA] Early AMtoday
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At 0104 EDST , I heard KOA, 850 khz. , Denver with sports scores ( Mets 4 , St. Louis 2 ) and "Av's" score ( Colorado Avalanche) of 4 to 1 over Toronto.....then " It's 11:04 on Newsradio 850 , KOA ".............Not new , but nice to hear on the Sony Sports Walkman. Chris Johnson K4CME Taylors , S.C.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:18:01 +0000
From: "CHARLES HUTTON" <charlesh3@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Central Oregon TPs, Thursday
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Dave:
Could it have been Korean? The Russian (transmitting VOA in Korean
1300-1400) is a pretty regular visitor.
Chuck
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>Subject: [IRCA] Central Oregon TPs, Thursday
>Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:53:10 -0700
>
>Hets on almost every split when I dropped off a visitor at the airport at
>1230UT (0530 PT).
>On returning home, the upper end of the dial had weakened considerably, but
>HLAZ-1566 was
>still hanging in there. Also, audio on 594, 648, 693, 774, and 828. I swear
>648 was JJ, but I don't
>see a likely target. Are there any higher-powered JJs on 648? Soft-spoken
>female announcer in Japanese at 1340.
>
>774 was once again strongest (completely listenable) at 1415UT; all signals
>gone by 1500.
>
>Dave Williams
>Redmond, OR
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:56:16 -0400
From: "Rene Tetro" <rene@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [IRCA] Stations Heard Last Night
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526 ZLS Beacon, Bahamas. Very Strong, Steady. Morse ID. 1845.
740 WNYH, Huntington, NY. Good signal with Music into Legal ID with CHWO nulled. 1900. (Cheating? They should have been on 43 watts at that time).
Equipment: Icom R-75 (with Kiwa Mods) and Terk AM Advantage Loop.
Location: Lansdale, PA
73,
Rene'
Rene F. Tetro
Chief Engineer
Salem Communications - Philadelphia
WNTP-AM / WFIL-AM
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Lafayette Hill, PA 19444
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"Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God." (Matthew 5)
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:29:12 -0700
From: The Kaskey Family <kaskeyfamily@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [IRCA] Weak Kneed Try
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Up for a short spot 0720-0735 PDT today. JOUB-774 in easily above high
noise level but only other TPs with audio were 657 & 1566 and those just
barely, really not decipherable (as to language etc)....Congrats to the
rest of you leftcoasters for making this an enjoyable season so far.
Noted KSTE-650 in Sacto already on day power at 0720 & Calgary-1060 was
still in with a very readable signal at 0735. Sorry, you International
dxers, it's your turn to convert. Basically I'm a domestic dxer and
don't really cotton to this UTC bit :-)....
Don K.
S.F. CA
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:23:09 -0700
From: beansdad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Central Oregon TPs, Thursday
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Definitely could have been. It wasn't // to 594, 693, or 774 (which I do know were Japanese) so it's quite possible.
Thanks for the pointer!
Dave Williams
Redmond, OR
----- Original Message -----
From: CHARLES HUTTON <charlesh3@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:18 am
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Central Oregon TPs, Thursday
> Dave:
>
> Could it have been Korean? The Russian (transmitting VOA in Korean
> 1300-1400) is a pretty regular visitor.
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> >From: beansdad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Reply-To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of
> >America<irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of
> >America<irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [IRCA] Central Oregon TPs, Thursday
> >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:53:10 -0700
> >
> >Hets on almost every split when I dropped off a visitor at the
> airport at
> >1230UT (0530 PT).
> >On returning home, the upper end of the dial had weakened
> considerably, but
> >HLAZ-1566 was
> >still hanging in there. Also, audio on 594, 648, 693, 774, and
> 828. I swear
> >648 was JJ, but I don't
> >see a likely target. Are there any higher-powered JJs on 648?
> Soft-spoken
> >female announcer in Japanese at 1340.
> >
> >774 was once again strongest (completely listenable) at 1415UT;
> all signals
> >gone by 1500.
> >
> >Dave Williams
> >Redmond, OR
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:36:54 -0700
From: mwdxer@xxxxxxxxx (Patrick Martin)
Subject: [IRCA] KKPZ 1330 is now IBOC
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Greetings,
I tuning across the dial today, I found KKPZ 1330 Portland now IBOC as
predicted. Anyway, it is not much of an issue here and I thought. The
noise is there, but a bit of adjusting of the passband tuning I can get
rid of 90% of it no matter what antenna I am using. Of course it is
stronger on the 1500' Eastern beverage, but not much of a big issue. KEX
is much more of an issue. Off the 45' vertical KXRO 1320 is totally in
the clear. Now if all IBOC was this poor, it would be easier to get
around! But I am sure as skip angles vary and all their IBOC noise will
vary too.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:43:49 -0700
From: mwdxer@xxxxxxxxx (Patrick Martin)
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Dump AM IBOC, Move the AM Band, re:HDTV comment
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Kevin,
HDTV is not mandated. Digital TV is and it is only over the air. Those
who have Direct TV, Dish, or cable will not be affected. The only thing
here will be the over the air translators. I guess if I want to continue
getting Portland TV, I will have to get a digital tuner. I will, or
maybe I will buy an HDTV set by that time. But no, HDTV is not mandated,
just going digital is. Are there are digital TV sets out there now that
are not HDTV? I have not seen any analog sets with a digital tuner
inside. Some HDTV sets even come without the digital tuner. That is not
going to do the OTA viewers much good, but again most people are wired
for satellite or cable anyway.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:22:27 -0500
From: "Les Rayburn" <les@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [IRCA] Montana DX Test Update (KEIN 1310khz)
To: <amfmtvdx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "NRC AM List" <am@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Geralyn Hollerman" <lynnhollerman@xxxxxxxxx>, "Glenn Hauser"
<wghauser@xxxxxxxxx>, <Amdx@xxxxxxxxxx>, "IRCA"
<irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mwc@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "ABDX"
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Cc: KTZZ-FM / KEIN-AM <z93@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Brandon Jordan
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Received this note today from Steven Dow, the owner of KEIN 1310khz in Great
Falls, Montana regarding
the upcoming test on November 18-19th. For listeners who will be targeting
KEIN 1310khz, this
is important stuff.
Again, our thanks to Steve Dow for this test!
======================================================
Hello Les:
I will be participating in the DX test, however, during testing of the audio
chain during the two hour period I will have normal programming (nostalgia
music) alternating with the morse ID's and test tones. KEIN has a 5/8 wave
antenna so the sky wave tends to favor the long path. Best of luck with the
test!
Steven Dow
Owner
========================
Les Rayburn, N1LF
NRC/IRCA Broadcast Test Coordinator
Please call anytime 24/7 if your transmitter
will be off the air for maintenance.
(205) 253-4867
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