Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff

[Chuck Hutton <charlesh3@xxxxxxx>]

OK, the time honored numbering system is still in force.


And don't worry, I don't think there is anyone on this planet that uses "north" and "highest" as synonyms.


Chuck


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From: Gary DeBock <d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:16 PM
To: Chuck Hutton; America, Mailing
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff

Chuck,

"Highest" means in elevation, not in direction (such as 'North"). I had assumed that everyone would understand this, but if you didn't, that was the source of the misunderstanding.

In any case, as long as all DXers agree of the cliff turnoff numbering system, the issue is resolved, as far as I'm concerned.

Gary

On August 10, 2018 at 9:08 PM Chuck Hutton <charlesh3@xxxxxxx> wrote:


But your post of an hour ago called the north end "#1" (as we always have) and it is the high end.

That's different from your post last Saturday, which called #6 the highest turnout.


Chuck


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From: Gary DeBock <d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:03 PM
To: Chuck Hutton; America, Mailing
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff

<<< So since you were now calling the highest turnout "Rockworks 6: I followed suite with the new scheme. >>>

Kind of puzzled with the "new scheme" reference, Chuck-- I've always referred to #6 as the turnoff with the highest elevation.

Gary

On August 10, 2018 at 8:51 PM Chuck Hutton <charlesh3@xxxxxxx> wrote:


And the scheme you describe is the scheme we have all been using.


But..... Your post last Saturday at 12:57 AM said:


Craig and I drove up to the Cliff in the predawn darkness around 1140 (0440 local time) only to find both the Rockwork 4 and 5 turnoffs completely jammed up with RV's, trucks and cars. As such we headed for Rockwork 6, which not only has the highest elevation but also plenty of space. There were several RV's parked there, but we had no trouble setting up our FSL's on the south end.

So since you were now calling the highest turnout "Rockworks 6: I followed suite with the new scheme.

Chuck
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From: Gary DeBock <d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 8:31 PM
To: Chuck Hutton; America, Mailing
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff

FWIW (maybe a little), in the informal numbering system used by DXers since 2011, Chuck, you were indeed at Rockwork 3 on Tuesday morning, not Rockwork 5. But none of these numbers are "official," and anybody can call any turnoff whatever he wants.

In August of 2011 (the very first time that a wacky DXer tried setting up at the plunging cliff) I assigned numbers to each of the Rockwork Highway 101 turnoffs, starting with #1 for the first turnoff as you approach the cliff from the north. As such, #2 is the relatively large turnoff as you proceed up the hill, and #3 is the somewhat smaller turnoff after that. By now everyone knows where #4 is (including the squatters), while #5 is another relatively small turnoff near the crest of Highway 101. Turnoff #6 is the rather wide, open area at the crest of Highway 101, which always had plenty of space for antenna setup until the squatters discovered it.

Up until last week none of these numbers were very important, since every DXer simply set up at #4, everybody knew where it was, and everybody accepted the name. After this summer's squatter proliferation we had to scramble every morning for antenna setup space, though, and the turnoff numbers suddenly became very important in pre-session scouting text messages. In any case, if you wish to call turnoff #3 by a different number (#5), that's certainly OK-- the only risk is that the other DXers may misunderstand you.

Gary

On August 10, 2018 at 6:52 PM Chuck Hutton <charlesh3@xxxxxxx> wrote:


FWIW (a little, as we are comparing Rockworks sites),  I was at Rockworks 5 instead of 3 on Tuesday morning..


Chuck


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From: IRCA <irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Gary DeBock <d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:01 PM
To: America, Mailing
Subject: [IRCA] Five DXer Session at the Rockwork Cliff

     <CLIP>

     Antenna setup in total darkness right next to total strangers is never boring, and this morning Tom and Chuck needed some reasonable space to set up their broadband loops. When I drove up at 1150 (0450 local time) I noticed that Tom was setting up at Rockwork 4, and Chuck at Rockwork 3 (apparently along with Nick, who was testing out propagation at various places with verticals). By now Craig had become fully accustomed to my vehicle, and he showed up at a perfect time to follow me to Rockwork 6, which had just enough space in between the squatters to set up four large FSL's and PVC bases..


73 and Good DX,

Gary DeBock (in Nehalem, OR for two more days)










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