Re: [IRCA] LINK FOR XHDATA D-808 PURCHASE

[Mike Keval Brooker <keval.mike@xxxxxxxxx>]

Is there any reason why this radio is not available in North America,
except through sketchy fly-by-night re-sellers? I would be tempted to buy
one if it was offered by, say, Universal Radio. Slightly better than the C
Crane Skywave, yes. But I don't think it would beat my 40 year old
Panasonic RF2200.


73

Mike Brooker
Toronto, ON

On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:05 PM, Russ Johnson <radiok3pi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Really enjoying mine so far
>
> The audio characteristics match my ears better than any radio have.
>
> The most annoying thing is that the kickstand is far too short. You canât
> read display.  My easy solution was to clip a clothespin to the center of
> kickstand for additional length needed. Works great
>
> Russ Johnson
> Lexington NC
>
>
>
> > On Jul 29, 2018, at 7:18 PM, Gary DeBock <d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Craig,
> >
> > Unfortunately that seller has never offered to ship the model to either
> the USA or Canada, despite the fact that he will ship it to Mexico for free
> (go figure?).
> >
> > This is almost certainly related to the fact that a lot of the XHDATA
> D-808 circuitry was "reverse engineered" from the C.Crane Skywave SSB
> model, and the company is reluctant to risk a copyright lawsuit by selling
> the model openly in North America. The eBay seller offering the model at
> $112 tries to avoid this issue by shipping through Israel-- and he is
> apparently doing a booming business by coming up with this solution.
> >
> > 73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
> >
> >
> >> On July 29, 2018 at 3:19 PM C B <bevdxer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>    This Ebay seller has a special on the XHData D-808 for a couple more
> days:
> >>
> >>
> >>    XHDATA D 808 Portable Digital Radio FM stereo/ SW / MW / LW SSB AIR
> RDS Multi Band Radio Speaker with LCD Display Alarm Clock-in Radio from
> Consumer Electronics on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tecsun-PL-398MP-2-2-Full-
> Band-Digital-Tuning-Stereo-Radio-Receiver-w-Stand-and-MP3/1504908567.html
> >>
> >>    $79.78
> >>    XHDATA D 808 Portable Digital Radio FM stereo/ SW / MW / LW SSB AIR
> RDS ...
> >>
> >>    Cheap radio fm stereo, Buy Quality fm stereo directly from China
> portable digital radio Suppliers: XHDATA D-808 ...
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tecsun-PL-398MP-2-2-Full-
> Band-Digital-Tuning-Stereo-Radio-Receiver-w-Stand-and-MP3/1504908567.html
> >>
> >>
> >>    73,
> >>
> >>    Craig Barnes
> >>    Wheat Ridge, CO
> >>
> >>    On Sunday, July 29, 2018, 3:51:01 PM MDT, shaftan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
> shaftan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>    https://www.ebay.com/itm/XHDATA-D-808-Portable-Digital-
> Radio-FM-stereo-SW-MW-LW-SSB-RDS-Air-Band-LCD/263589135532
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    I got mine here.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    Rick S., Rodanthe NC OBX FM25go
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    From: fpeconsultant@xxxxxxx mailto:fpeconsultant@xxxxxxx <
> fpeconsultant@xxxxxxx mailto:fpeconsultant@xxxxxxx >
> >>    Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 5:12 PM
> >>    To: Gary DeBock < d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx mailto:d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >>    Cc: < shaftan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:shaftan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > <
> shaftan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:shaftan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >; America, Mailing <
> irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >
> >>    Subject: Re: [nrc-am] XHDATA D-808-- The Summer Travel "Smoke Test"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    Hello again & thx for the info on the loop stick vs the Select A
> Tenna..
> >>
> >>    I have heard that the lithium battery can't be shipped to the USA &
> is tough to obtain as well.
> >>
> >>    Does anyone know if this is the case?
> >>
> >>    Thx again
> >>
> >>    Rich
> >>
> >>
> >>    On Jul 29, 2018, at 0:31, Gary DeBock < d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx
> mailto:d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto: d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx mailto:
> d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx > > wrote:
> >>
> >>    Hello Rich,
> >>
> >>    <<< I have been seeing a lot about this radio & am considering
> buying one - many posts mention a loop stick - my assumption is that this
> doesn't come with the radio & people build them. Can someone tell me if
> this is so & would using an old school Super Select-a-tenna give me similar
> results? >>>
> >>
> >>    Although the stock XHDATA D-808 model already provides good AM
> sensitivity with its 3 7/8" (97mm) loopstick, its performance can be
> dramatically boosted by replacing the stock loopstick with an
> externally-mounted 7.5" transplant. A photo of such an enhanced D-808 model
> is posted at https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/vk26lkhhu77q8buzuaido03fmy5s7x
> st
> >>
> >>    This 7.5" transplant loopstick is the same one used for
> "supercharging" the Tecsun PL-380 model, as described in the construction
> article posted at http://www.mediafire.com/file/
> du3sr5cd9thqvau/7.5inch-LS-PL380.doc/file http://www.mediafire.com/file/
> du3sr5cd9thqvau/7.5inch-LS-PL380.doc/file The enhanced D-808 model would
> have AM sensitivity similar to that of a stock D-808 + Select-a-Tenna
> combo, but would not require peaking the external antenna every time a
> frequency is changed. This is a huge advantage for quick and easy "travel
> DXing."
> >>
> >>    73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    On July 28, 2018 at 4:36 PM fpeconsultant via NRC-AM <
> nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:
> nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > wrote:
> >>
> >>    Hello - I have been seeing a lot about this radio & am considering
> buying one - many posts mention a loop stick - my assumption is that this
> doesn't come with the radio & people build them.  Can someone tell me if
> this is so & would using an old school Super Select-a-tenna give me similar
> results?
> >>
> >>    Thx
> >>
> >>    Rich
> >>
> >>
> >>    On Jul 28, 2018, at 14:09, < shaftan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:
> shaftan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto: shaftan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:
> shaftan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > wrote:
> >>
> >>    This is the best portable Iâve seen yet.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    Rick Shaftan
> >>
> >>    Rodanthe NC OBX FM25go
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    From: nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto: nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >  <
> nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:
> nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > On Behalf Of
> Gary DeBock
> >>    Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 1:18 AM
> >>    To: America, Mailing < irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:
> irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto: irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:
> irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >; NRC < nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:
> nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto: nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:
> nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >
> >>    Subject: [nrc-am] XHDATA D-808-- The Summer Travel "Smoke Test"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>        Detailed information concerning the new, Chinese-made XHDATA
> D-808 AM-LW-FM-SW-AIR portable has been posted previously, including its
> hot-performing AM-DXing loopstick, SSB capability and rechargeable
> lithium-ion battery. This model was "inspired" (to be generous) by the
> C.Crane Skywave SSB model, which was manufactured in the nearby Redsun
> factories in China-- with the first model sold a few months before the
> D-808 was "reverse-engineered."
> >>
> >>        As reported previously, the D-808 makes a few significant
> improvements over the Skywave SSB model-- a longer, more sensitive AM
> loopstick, a much stronger audio amplifier, and a much lower price ($112 on
> eBay, versus $169.99 for the Skywave SSB). After a few months with the
> company declining to ship to North American customers (apparently to avoid
> a copyright lawsuit because of the SSB circuitry, identical to that of the
> Skywave SSB), a single Chinese eBay seller is now doing a booming business,
> shipping the model to North American customers through Israel.
> >>
> >>    After performing two MW and one Longwave 7.5" loopstick transplants
> on the D-808 model, I can confirm that the model is well engineered (or
> maybe well reverse engineered?), with the loopstick connections on the RF
> circuit board unusually accessible, and ideal for soldering larger diameter
> Litz wire. There are actually two terminal connections for this purpose--
> most likely to make it easy for the XHDATA engineers to test out various
> loopsticks.
> >>
> >>    And a loopstick transplant on the D-808 may be easier to contemplate
> if you consider the fact that you will not be violating the XHDATA warranty
> by replacing the loopstick. Why not? Because there is no evidence of any
> XHDATA warranty on the model, either online, or in the documents shipped
> along with the portable :-)
> >>
> >>        As such, I thought I would submit a D-808 model to a very rough
> break-in test during extensive summer travel these past two weeks. A 7.5"
> MW loopstick D-808 model was taken along during road trips to eastern
> Washington (complete with 100 degree F/ 43 degree C temperatures), rough
> mountain roads (on Mount Rainier, Mount Baker and Hurricane Ridge) and a
> visit to Vancouver, BC.
> >>
> >>        Once the supplied 3.7v Lithium Ion battery is fully charged (via
> a supplied USB-type connector cord), the battery provides exceptional run
> time. I was able to use it for many hours of DXing over two weeks, with no
> apparent loss of power. The audio amp delivers a lot of response, even when
> signals are weak. It takes a little time getting used to the volume control
> being on the left side when the tuning control is on the right, but you
> catch on pretty quick. The enhanced 7.5" MW loopstick model is like the
> "King of Compact Portables," with sensitivity enough to dig out practically
> everything that any other portable on the planet could come up with-- with
> SSB capability and multiple DSP filtering selections to boot. For someone
> making an overseas trip or extended travel from home, it would be a dream
> portable. This is the first radio to use the full capabilities of the
> American-engineered Si4735 DSP chip-- with exceptional results.
> >>
> >>        What finally got my undivided attention, though, was when the
> model was accidentally left in the trunk during our visit to Ellensburg,
> WA-- a location famous for 100 degree days in July. Multiple items in the
> trunk (shampoo, food, electric shavers, etc.) were zapped by the 104 degree
> temperature inside the trunk, and were either ruined, or refused to
> operate. As I turned on the burning-hot D-808 model I certainly expected
> the worst, especially when the temperature indicator showed "43 degrees C."
> Much to my astonishment the model performed flawlessly, though, delivering
> an S9 signal from the Snoqualmie Pass TIS station on 1610 kHz. Not once had
> the D-808 missed a beat over a tough two weeks, which included quite a few
> rough bumps, extremely hot days and long DXing hours. Despite the rather
> dubious design pedigree and lack of any manufacturer's warranty the D-808
> had gained my respect as a hot-performing AM-DXing portable, ready to
> perform and persevere when conditions are rough. Although it's not an
> Ultralight radio, it certainly is an exceptional portable for the price.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    73 and Good DX,
> >>
> >>    Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
> >>
> >>
> >>
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