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Re: [IRCA] Top 10 "Flamethrower" TP's in Kona, Hawaii
- Subject: Re: [IRCA] Top 10 "Flamethrower" TP's in Kona, Hawaii
- From: Gary DeBock <d1028gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:13:00 -0800 (PST)
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Hi Chris,
<<< A lot of those signals are better received in Hawaii than in Korea, but there is predictably a lot less noise from other stations in the middle of the ocean than in one of the most congested MW locations on Earth. >>>
Thanks for listening to the "flamethrower" clips, and for your detailed comments. It's definitely true that TP-DXing in Hawaii can sound exactly like you are on the east coast of Asia-- I lived in Japan as a teenager from 1967-69, and this was the first MW-DXing experience I've ever had since then that made me feel like I was back in Iwakuni, Yamaguchi-ken.
<<< The CNR-1 theme music also serves as the TOH station ID, which you have there as well. I mean, even without the ID, it's darn well obvious what station you're hearing. That's the joy of networks like that. You can understand no Mandarin whatsoever yet you know what you've got. >>>
981-CNR1 was one of two Asian stations whose signals bordered on science fiction levels in Kona-- the other was 819-KCBS. I made about 5 long MP3's of each, and would have made a lot more except that I was running out of recording time. The combination of overwhelming signals and wacky programming on 819-KCBS was almost enough to make someone look out for incoming ICBM's.
<<< 1134 Tokyo also liked to trounce on my local KBS 2R from just about seven miles away. It could always be heard in the background despite being a good 700 miles distant. And then, of course, Seoul turns off for much of the early morning hours and it's all Tokyo. >>>
Yes, that 1134-Tokyo transmitter seemed to get a megawatt power boost in Hawaii. KBS was hanging around at a paltry level, but barely strong enough for language recognition.
<<< The 1593 is just like in Korea. That darn NHK was always in the way and sounded almost exactly as it does in your clip!! Then BOTH of them turn off for the night as well. Then 1593 is just a graveyard of silence. >>>
Actually 1593-NHK2 was dominant over CNR1 for much of the trip, but as the Asian sunset shifted from Japan to China the Chinese would get a turbo boost. I was hoping for a nice S9+ recording of Changzhou all alone (like 981-CNR1), but the pesky NHK2 never left it alone.
<<< As for your 909 unID, the clip you posted is almost certainly CNR-6, 1000kw aiming east from Quanzhou, China. The clip sounds Hakka to me, not Mandarin. And CNR-6 has a Hakka programming block at the specific time of your recording. However, the station isn't on for the entire day; it takes breaks, so you very well may have been receiving a different station at the times it was off the air. I could probably get the children clip here confirmed as to whether it's Hakka or not, which would be your confirmation. I can usually tell them apart (harder when it's being sung obviously) after all my Taiwan Es received in Hakka and Hokkien, and while it's extremely likely, I can't be extremely sure.
Send me any of your Asian clips you have UNID if you wish. Even some of them that sound like a mess of Chinese to you may have obvious clues that rule out other stations and zero in on a specific one. Plus, I'm bored. >>>
Well, Chris, if you're bored, I'm in luck! I hadn't really expected any assistance with the 909 UnID-Chinese clip, so your comments are extremely interesting. Actually that segment was part of a 4-minute 909 kHz clip starting off at 0955 UTC on December 18th, with some Chinese speech before the children's chanting. Another possible Chinese station (male voice) comes around at the 1:00 point, but I'm not sure of the language. Anyway, even if you can't dig out any more clues, you've already provided more assistance than I thought I could get. Thanks! https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/ze1djtse64rzemp4q0aeehqlw24n6xg4
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
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