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Re: [IRCA] Favorite reversible beverage?

I have a 1000' spool that I'd like to try, so terminating at the east end isn't feasible. I think leaving it non-terminated is best. I wonder... I am using the ICE beverage transformer at the near end to go from long wire to 50-ohm coax feed into the house, so I'm assuming it can it be terminated there (from the wire terminal to ground)?
There is corn in the field now, taller than I am, and I don't see myself laying 1000' of wire through that many corn stalks (what a lazy DXer, eh?), so I might try running it N/S parallel to the edge for now - to the north and south along the field is all family-owned property. I'd move it to the field later in the fall after the corn is picked.
I have another almost 1000' length of wire I could use for that, perhaps even cutting that into unequal lengths and try the phasing route. 

On 2017-09-02 9:24 pm, Neil Kazaross wrote:
OK Tim, this is what I recalled as your DU's come of the back end. You're losing at least a couple dB compared to being fed from the east end. This loss is greater in the upper band and helps explain why your BOGs aren't 
effective for X-band Aussies.

73 KAZ

On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Tim Tromp <kilokat7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My BOG wires are 400 FT & 500 FT and spaced roughly 1-1/2 to 2 feet apart. 
Google Earth tells me the bearing is about 78 / 257 degrees which is 2
degrees off from Sydney. The wires are fed from the west end and are left unterminated at the far end towards the east. The wires have been deployed 
for several years now and go through dense woods.  I took a walk a few
weeks ago to check on the condition of the wires. Aside from the first 10 feet or so, I can't even find the wires anymore in the woods due to the natural ground covering. The ultimate high performance stealth antenna! 

73,
Tim
On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Neil Kazaross <neilkaz58@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

> Tim's setup is what I call a Phased BOG System and it is very effective.
> Note that the BOG should be at least somewhat different in length and/or
> direction or you will have the same signal on each BOG from every direction
> and when you phase you'll null almost everything.
>
> Tim, please tell us how long each BOG is and what exact  bearing (as close
> as you can tell). 73 and thx .. KAZ
>
> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Tim Tromp <kilokat7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > I do exactly what you're trying to do by using a pair of unterminated BOGs
> > (Beverage On the Ground).  The parallel BOG wires (via matching
> > transformers and coax) are connected to a phasing box (such as the Quantum
> > Phaser by DX Tools).  This will give you east-west reversibility from the
> > shack with deep nulls.  This is simple to deploy and all the components are
> > available off the shelf.  As you may have gathered from my DU reports this
> > week, this setup rocks if you have the space!
> >
> > You may also want to consider a reversible DKAZ or similar terminated
> > loop.  Mark Durenberger has a clever remote controller circuit using relays
> > and Vactrols to accomplish this.  As far as I know, there's no
> > off-the-shelf solution and you'll have to roll your own like I did for my
> > north-south reversible DKAZ.
> >
> > 73,
> > Tim Tromp
> > West Michigan
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Mark Pettifor <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > What is your favorite way of implementing a reversible beverage?
> > >
> > > For example, I have a lot of real estate (well, a farmer's field) to my
> > > east. Normally I'd run a beverage out there and terminate it at the far
> > > end, making it directional to the East. Using the same layout, what's the
> > > best way to make it directional to the West?
> > >
> > > Mark Pettifor
> > > Goshen, IN
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