Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

["Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx>]

I  saw a mention of two 1512khz relays from about 6 months agi which lead
me to believe it was on.... and interestingly The Radio Heritage PAL has
them listed as Thunder AM! When, in reality, the information I found would
seem to suggest 1512 is relay of AFN Eagle Daegu! The same PAL list seems
to suggest AFN Daegu is Thunder AM, when again, the same information I
found, seems to suggest 1440 Daegu is Eagle.


Paul

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Chris Kadlec <beaglebass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Excuse the long-winded reply here, but I'm obviously passionate about the
> correct flow of detailed information, for which you'll all see when I
> release my 100+ bandscan guide soon...
>
> Chuck, with all due respect to Alan Davies (who is usually too busy with
> his site to reply to e-mails), Asiawaves is often very inaccurate. It takes
> a person living on the ground in that region to know how much of the
> information on that site is either out of date or just plain wrong.
>
> The problem is that the site is only as good as the resources used to
> build it. In the case of Korea and eastern China, I feel I am one of his
> main resources (though totally indirectly as I've never shared it with him
> one-on-one) for the fact that the changes I post eventually make it to his
> site in a week or two. And the many things I stay totally quiet on are
> never corrected and are often years out of date. (Figuring I'd probably not
> get any credit for the hundreds of hours of my own research to get correct
> info, so why bother sharing it privately at all til I release it under my
> own name??)
>
> So with AFN (and KBS!), until earlier this year, there were about 2+ dozen
> inactive frequencies that were still listed on that site before I said
> "umm, these have been off the air for *years*!" and were more or less
> mostly deleted after that.
>
> The lesson is that you should *ALWAYS* seek out a second source of
> information if you want to add something to a log or public info site like
> that, depending on how detailed you like to be.
>
> My Seoul AM Listening Guide bandscan project will be finished at the end
> of this week (final touches right now!) with a 110-page guide and 3-hour
> audio bandscan. Without Alan's site, who knows how many extra months it
> would have taken to figure out what station was what when I started that.
> It was an awesome starting point I am grateful for. But in the end, the
> details of perhaps 25% (not bad) of the 230 regular skywave stations were
> incorrect - China changes formats and station names like the wind and
> builds new tower sites the same - imagine the misinformation I would be
> passing on by taking it at face value. It's unacceptable (to do that) in my
> eyes.
>
> So in regards to AFN, having the internal information source, albeit not
> entirely accurate as the military IS the military after all, is important.
> Yes, Red Cloud has been off the air for years, but even I, while living in
> Korea, was unaware that 1512 was on the air in Jinhae and Pohang, which
> Paul sleuthed around (in very public places I was too lazy to bother with)
> to confirm that they *are* indeed on. But imagine if you had heard pop
> music on 1161, just for example, and went to Asiawaves and said "oh,
> there's an AFN on there!!! I got AFN" when in fact, AFN there switched to
> AM years ago and the entry is false? Or the same with the numerous KBS
> entries, some of them having been very high-powered stations audible across
> the Pacific in the past.
>
> Always confirm information, no matter how good you assume a source is, or
> you're just contributing to misinformation. :) Just my two (or ten) cents.
>
> Hopefully my information can contribute to Alan's site, and hopefully I
> get an ounce of credit for it as I have given him. When it takes you 6
> months to realize two jammers are running parallel, it would suck when
> someone just posts that in 10 seconds without credit for all your standing
> in the winter wind and snow trying to figure it out for certain.
>
> -Chris Kadlec
> Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 04:38:55 +0000
>> From: Chuck Hutton <charlesh3@xxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>>
>> The PAL and AsiaWaves are far more accurate and cover that entire corner
>> orf the world, so why use individual lists?
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
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