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Re: [Swprograms] Fwd: Bill O'Reilly Thinks You're Crazy
I daresay everyone with three working brain cells knows that O'Reilly is a
shill. So what's the sense in debating his style? People have a morbid
fascination in watching train wrecks.
I may agree with a lot of his politics--to a point, but I don't have the
luxury of a high typing speed so it's really costly in time for me to engage
you in a verbal dogfight, fun though that might be. So what are my realistic
choices? I can either sit here and endure what sometimes borders on liberal
propaganda or I can turn it off. I really wonder if the world benefits from
yet another general media discussion group.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:swprograms-bounces@hard-core-
> dx.com] On Behalf Of John Figliozzi
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:23 AM
> To: Shortwave programming discussion
> Subject: Re: [Swprograms] Fwd: Bill O'Reilly Thinks You're Crazy
>
> Politics infuses everything, Scott; but especially the media. The
> role of the media is arguably at the center of our discussions here,
> ultimately, and that is among other things a profoundly political
> question. I realize Bill O'Reilly serves as sort of a lightning rod
> and and using one of his "rants" (isn't that what he--and others in
> this realm left and right--do?) edges the discussion into a more
> uncomfortably political sphere than is our usual practice; but in the
> main his opinions on the subject do belong in that discussion of the
> media's role. Evidently, he believes it should serve as sort of a
> national cheerleader. I don't think any of us--whether left, right
> or center-oriented politically--believe that. But I might be wrong.
>
> Don't respond by leaving. I understand emotional reactions. I have
> them all the time. <g> But leaving is an overreaction, I think.
> (Respectfully.)
>
> And--yes--this is a roach motel.
>
> John
>
> On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:47 AM, Scott Royall wrote:
>
> > The remit, as you put it, seems to widen daily. Why must everything be
> > polarized by politics?
> >
> > By the way, unsubscribing isn't working. Is this a roach motel? :)
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:swprograms-bounces@hard-core-
> >> dx.com] On Behalf Of John Figliozzi
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:12 PM
> >> To: Shortwave programming discussion
> >> Subject: Re: [Swprograms] Fwd: Bill O'Reilly Thinks You're Crazy
> >>
> >> I don't know why. We debate the state of commercial and public
> >> service media here all the time. The remit of this group is quite
> >> wide and always has been. If the problem is that the post diverges
> >> from your view of things, you could rebut what was said. But to
> >> criticize someone for posting it is a bit weak IMHO.
> >>
> >> John Figliozzi
> >>
> >> On Jun 10, 2008, at 8:53 PM, Scott Royall wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm saddened that this was forwarded in this group.
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> [mailto:swprograms-bounces@hard-core-
> >>>> dx.com] On Behalf Of Richard Cuff
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:55 PM
> >>>> To: Shortwave programming discussion
> >>>> Subject: [Swprograms] Fwd: Bill O'Reilly Thinks You're Crazy
> >>>>
> >>>> Those in the group who may be critical of the policies and
> >>>> approaches
> >>>> of US commercial TV news media may find this item of interest.
> >>>>
> >>>> Richard Cuff / Allentown, PA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>> From: Josh Silver, FreePress.net <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Date: Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:59 PM
> >>>> Subject: Bill O'Reilly Thinks You're Crazy
> >>>> To: rdcuff@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Friend,
> >>>>
> >>>> Watch the Video and Thank O'Reilly
> >>>>
> >>>> Last night, Rupert Murdoch launched a laughable attack against you,
> >>>> the media reform movement, and journalism itself.
> >>>>
> >>>> His on-air bully Bill O'Reilly called us "crazy" and "fascist" ---
> >>>> you, me, and the millions of others who want media reform. These
> >>>> people are "doing a lot of damage to America," O'Reilly yelled. Our
> >>>> crime? Calling for journalism that's more honest, just and
> >>>> accountable
> >>>> to the public.
> >>>>
> >>>> When Bill O'Reilly goes after you, you must be doing something
> >>>> right.
> >>>> So we've decided to return the favor, and tell him two things: (1)
> >>>> Thanks so much for the compliment and (2) please stop pretending
> >>>> to be
> >>>> a journalist.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tell Bill O'Reilly: Stop Pretending to Be a Journalist
> >>>>
> >>>> At this weekend's National Conference for Media Reform in
> >>>> Minneapolis,
> >>>> O'Reilly sent his stalker reporter Porter Berry to ambush legendary
> >>>> journalist Bill Moyers. But Berry got far more than he bargained
> >>>> for
> >>>> (watch the video). Moyers stood his ground with the Fox News
> >>>> crew and
> >>>> challenged O'Reilly to stop smearing people under the guise of
> >>>> journalism.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank O'Reilly for Making the Case for Media Reform
> >>>>
> >>>> The O'Reilly ambush is typical Fox News fare. Murdoch uses his
> >>>> media
> >>>> empire to attack his political foes and -- not to inform
> >>>> citizens or
> >>>> tell the truth. The fight for media reform is about regular people
> >>>> like you and me fighting undue corporate control of the media. This
> >>>> kind of abuse of media power aggravates progressives and
> >>>> conservatives
> >>>> alike.
> >>>>
> >>>> Murdoch seeks to take down a people-powered movement that is a
> >>>> gathering force in America. Over the past few years, media
> >>>> reformers
> >>>> have chalked up tremendous victories against nation's largest media
> >>>> companies. When the FCC attempted to unleash a new wave of media
> >>>> consolidation late last year, more than a quarter-million people
> >>>> contacted Congress, culminating in a Senate vote that rejected a
> >>>> massive giveaway to Murdoch and his cronies.
> >>>>
> >>>> We're fighting government propaganda and protecting free speech and
> >>>> choice on the Internet. Our work is a threat to titans like Murdoch
> >>>> who want to hoard control over news and information in America.
> >>>>
> >>>> By signing the letter you're telling O'Reilly: "We are not
> >>>> intimidated. We want better journalism. Attacks from you only show
> >>>> how
> >>>> much we need media reform."
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for all that you do,
> >>>>
> >>>> Josh Silver
> >>>> Executive Director
> >>>> Free Press
> >>>> http://www.freepress.net/
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Forward this e-mail to 10 of your friends. We need you and
> >>>> everyone
> >>>> you know to stop Murdoch's assault on journalism.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. For more detail, read my article at the Huffington Post.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> Take action on this important campaign at:
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> >>>>
> >>>> Tell your friends about this campaign at:
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>> OUR OTHER CAMPAIGNS:
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> >>>> reform
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Richard Cuff / Allentown, PA USA
> >>>>
> >>>> International broadcasting / shortwave blog:
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