Re: [Swprograms] OT: Loss of NWI (was DX Listening Digest 5-127 et al)

[jfiglio1@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

I meant that NWI looked largely the same way it did when it debuted.  
For you and me, it's mere existence was distinguishing enough.  But, 
for the larger audience generally speaking, those that didn't use it 
regularly at its inception, still didn't use it at the end.  

FWIW, I think the CBC statement is a little self-serving.  It repeats 
the oft-stated perception that American audiences are not interested 
in international content.  However, recent polling I've seen indicates 
that such interest has increased.  I think it's closer to the truth 
that the CBC could secure another arrangement "on the cheap" that 
mirrored the relationship they had had with the previous owners of NWI.

Having said that, I hope they keep trying.  I'm going to miss "The 
National".

jaf



----- Original Message -----
From: Sandy Finlayson <sfinlayson@xxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2005 11:32 am
Subject: Re: [Swprograms] OT: Loss of NWI (was DX Listening Digest 5-
127 et	al)

> John:
> 
> I am not sure what you have in mind when you say that NWI did 
> little to distinguish itself or improve visibility.  I think it 
> was distinguished from other services since the product was 
> unique.  As to improving visibility I do not know what they tried. 
> There clearly were attempts to keep NWI going as the following 
> CBC statement attests
> 
> 
> When it was announced that NWI would be closing part of the CBC's 
> statement said.
> 
> "Attempts to keep NWI alive 'unsuccessful' 
> 
> CBC News management, while praising the quality of NWI's 
> programming, said the decision to close it was beyond CBC's 
> control. 
> 
> "A few months ago, we were advised that the content supply 
> arrangement will likely not be renewed," said CBC News Editor-in-
> Chief Tony Burman in a statement. 
> 
> "Since that time, the CBC has been aggressively exploring 
> alternate arrangements with the Gore Group and a myriad of other 
> distribution partners throughout the United States in an effort to 
> secure an ongoing future for NWI," he said. 
> 
> "Unfortunately, these discussions have been unsuccessful." 
> 
> Burman said it became clear during those discussions that the 
> people running the U.S. satellite and cable distribution world 
> think there are already too many news and information channels and 
> that there's no market for another international service. 
> 
> "At the CBC, we don't accept this analysis but there is little at 
> this point that we can do," he said." 
> 
> The full statement can be found at 
> http://www.cbc.ca/story/business/national/2005/04/07/nwi-050407.html
> 
> Sandy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> jfiglio1@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:59 AM
> To: Shortwave programming discussion
> Subject: [Swprograms] OT: Loss of NWI (was DX Listening Digest 5-
> 127 et
> al)
> 
> 
> While "Current" is a different kind of network with a different 
> focus, 
> I'm not sure it's fair to describe it as a "dumbing down" of news 
> right out of the box.  It appears to have taken note of the more 
> interactive nature of communications today; and of the 
> distinctively 
> different ways under 35s use media.  I think it is at least an 
> interesting experiment that seeks to marry aspects of the "old 
> media" 
> with the new and entice an audience that--quite frankly--seems to 
> be 
> turning its collective back on what those of us over 35 commonly 
> recognize as the mass media.
> 
> I, too, lament the loss of NWI; but to be fair, that network had 
> done 
> very little over the years to better distinguish itself or improve 
> its 
> visibility.  If CBC television feels the same way about reaching 
> an 
> American audience as apparently its radio side does, it too should 
> find a way to re-emerge on US television screens.  (N.B.: CBC 
> Radio 
> One and Premiere Chaine (the French first network) should be 
> available 
> to Sirius radio subscribers sometime this fall.)
> 
> John Figliozzi
> Halfmoon, NY
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sandy Finlayson <sfinlayson@xxxxxxx>
> Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2005 9:54 am
> Subject: Re: [Swprograms] DX Listening Digest 5-127; WOR 1282; COM 
> 05-
> 07;	DX Programs
> 
> > I was most interested in the comment in Glen's latest digest on 
> > the loss of NWI.
> > 
> > It is indeed a sad day that a service which provided unique 
> access 
> > to international news for an American audience has been replaced 
> > by News Videos for 20 somethings.  The 'dumbing down' of the 
> media 
> > continues apace.
> > 
> > The most distressing thing is that according to the CBC they 
> tried 
> > hard to sell DirecTV and other carriers on their product without 
> > success.  They were told Americans are not interested in 
> > international news.  I'm not sure this is true but if it is this 
> > is a sad commentary indeed.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sandy
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:swprograms-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Glenn 
> Hauser> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:49 AM
> > To: Glenn Hauser
> > Subject: [Swprograms] DX Listening Digest 5-127; WOR 1282; COM 
> 05-
> > 07;DXPrograms
> > 
> > 
> > DX Listening Digest 5-127 has now been posted at
> > http://www.w4uvh.net/dxlatest.txt or 
> http://dxld.worldofradio.org 
> > CONTENTS: 
> > 
> > WOR 1282 / COM 05-07 / DX PROGRAMS / BOLIVIA / BURMA non / 
> CANADA 
> > ham / CANADA
> > +non CBC/NWI/Current / CHINA +non / COLOMBIA non / COSTA RICA 
> +non 
> > RFPI+ /
> > EGYPT / ERITREA non / ETHIOPIA non / GERMANY / GUATEMALA / INDIA 
> / 
> > INDONESIA /
> > INTERNATIONAL VACUUM ISS/Discovery / INTERNATIONAL WATERS non? 
> > Coalition / IRAN
> > +non / IVORY COAST / JAMAICA +non / KASHMIR non / LAOS +non / 
> > LATVIA / LIBYA
> > +non / MEXICO +non / MYANMAR / NEW ZEALAND / NIGER non / 
> OKLAHOMA 
> > WKY/KWTV /
> > OMAN / PAKISTAN / PALAU / SAUDI ARABIA / SLOVAKIA +non / SUDAN / 
> > TAIWAN /
> > THAILAND / TIBET non / UK BBCM / USA NY VOLMET / USA 
> > WOR/WBCQ/WHR/WWCR / USA
> > WWRB/WYFR/WEWN/WWCR / USA WQCY923 / USA WCPN/WVIZ / USA Payola / 
> > USA WLCY+ /
> > USA KALT / USA PBS / USA ABC/CBS/NBC / USA KENS / USA Current / 
> > URUGUAY non /
> > VANUATU / VENEZUELA +non / VIETNAM non / DX-PEDITIONS / 
> > PUBLICATIONS / RADIO
> > EQUIPMENT FORUM / PROPAGATION / TIPS FOR RATIONAL LIVING
> > 
> > After the following issue, 5-128 has been published, 5-127 will 
> be 
> > available at
> > http://www.worldofradio.com/dxld5127.txt 
> > 
> > For restrixions and searchable 2005 contents archive see 
> > http://www.worldofradio.com/dxldmid.html 
> > 
> > NOTE: If you are a regular reader of DXLD, and a source of DX 
> news 
> > but 
> > have not been sending it directly to us, please consider 
> yourself 
> > obligated to do so. Thanks, Glenn 
> > 
> > NEXT AIRINGS OF WORLD OF RADIO 1282:
> > Mon 1800 WOR RFPI [repeated 4-hourly thru 1400 Tue]
> > Tue 1600 WOR WBCQ after hours
> > Tue 2330 WOR WBCQ 7415 [occasional]
> > Wed 0930 WOR WWCR 9985
> > Wed 1600 WOR WBCQ after hours
> > 
> > Latest edition of this schedule version, with hotlinks to 
> station 
> > sites and audio, is at: 
> http://www.worldofradio.com/radioskd.html 
> > 
> > WRN ON DEMAND:
> > http://new.wrn.org/listeners/stations/station.php?StationID=24
> > 
> > OUR ONDEMAND AUDIO [also CONTINENT OF MEDIA, MUNDO RADIAL]: 
> > http://www.worldofradio.com/audiomid.html
> > WORLD OF RADIO 1282 (high version):
> > (stream)   http://www.w4uvh.net/wor1282h.ram 
> > (download) http://www.w4uvh.net/wor1282h.rm 
> > WORLD OF RADIO 1282 (low version): 
> > (stream)   http://www.w4uvh.net/wor1282.ram
> > (download) http://www.w4uvh.net/wor1282.rm
> > (summary)  http://www.worldofradio.com/wor1282.html
> > 
> > WORLD OF RADIO 1282 in true SW sound of Alex`s mp3:
> > (stream)   http://www.dxprograms.net/worldofradio_07-27-05.m3u
> > (download) http://www.dxprograms.net/worldofradio_07-27-05.mp3
> > 
> > WORLD OF RADIO 1282 downloads in studio-quality mp3: 
> > (high) http://www.obriensweb.com/wor1282h.mp3
> > (low)  http://www.obriensweb.com/wor1282.mp3
> > 
> > WORLD OF RADIO PODCAST: www.obriensweb.com/wor.xml (currently 
> > available: 1277, Extra 57, 1278, 1279, 1280, Extra 58, 1281, 
> soon 
> > 1282)
> > 
> > CONTINENT OF MEDIA 05-07 from DXing.com:
> > (stream) http://www.dxing.com/com/com0507.ram
> > (download) http://www.dxing.com/com0507.rm
> > (summary) http://www.worldofradio.com/com0507.html [soon]
> > 
> > DX PROGRAMS, August 2 edition by John Norfolk:
> > http://www.worldofradio.com/dxpgms.html
> > 
> > Regards, Glenn Hauser
> > 
> > 
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