Re: [IRCA] Doesn't anybody sign off anymore?

[Chernos Saul <sauldx@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Have a nice clip of 1090 in Excelsior Spgs MOI signing off the other day at 1815 or so...

But with WWVA on open carrier a few mornings ago,m before 6 am eastern tiome, I had Jackson MO - now, with WWVA on OC would I be be to hear 4 or 5 watts, or the full monty of 250? I'm grateful, it was a new catch. Only IDed after careful listening to the audio clip, which mentioned 92.3 in addition to the calls.

I'm all in favour of taking action and calling the station to let them know. Usually they care. WKFN 540 TN is a case in point. I established a friendly rapport with an engineering higher-up there who had no idea the signal was out of whack. The problem was identified - the errant signal was no obvious locally there - and corrected within a couple of days.

Then there are the stations that don't care, that wilfully run at night. Some can't even be reached by phone.

I'd say cut all stations some slack. Let other DXers have enough time to hear them. Then call the station. Persist for awhile. Then, if you're really driven, contact a station likely being interfered with. Remain polite, civil and helpful throughout the process, in every dealing with every person. Don't be a Texas Ranger. If you choose to ID yourself as a DXer, you might offer to help them. Only do this if they seem receptive. Remember, you have access to a bevy of savvy signal chasers across NA and abroad, who are willing and eager ears if they're told what to listen for and when.

I would add, strongly, that we don't want to frighten stations away from conducting DX tests, or otherwise cooperating with DXers and DX clubs. Many engineers and owners worry that running day pattern or power during a test  from midnight to 6 am will potentially land them in trouble. Keep this in mind and be polite, gentle and helpful.

I don't know how much the FCC or Industry Canada really care, though I do read about fines often enough. If you are driven to complain to officialdom, make it an absolute LAST resort, and please keep the DX hobby absolutely out of it. 

I might conclude by saying that I'd likely not be DXing much overnight if there wasn't some errant station cracking the pot from time to time. Certainly I'd never have logged that 1170 in Jackson MO! And DXers like Jim Renfrew in Rochester would never likely have heard the 1520 in WA!

Saul Chernos
Burnt River ON



> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:21:43 -0500
> From: walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx
> To: drummer1965usa@xxxxxxxxx; irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Doesn't anybody sign off anymore?
> 
> WCZZ 1090 in Greenwood, SC signs off at sunset, last I knew in 2008.. they
> would just drop off in the middle of a song.
> 
> KTIC 840 streams and I do believe the sign off announcement airs on the
> stream but the programming continues on the stream overnight.
> 
> Paul
> 
> P.S. KTIC and those group of stations are a very respectable, well run
> group of stations!
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Rick Dau <drummer1965usa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > There ARE still stations that do, you just have to know where to look to
> > find them.  KTIC-840 in West Point, Nebraska still signs off at LSS, and so
> > does KNAB-1140 in Burlington, CO.  Other stations like KCTA-1030 in Corpus
> > Christ, TX and WKAR-870 in East Lansing, Michigan simply cut power in the
> > middle of a program at LSS time rather than air a proper sign-off
> > announcement.
> >
> > 73,
> > Rick Dau
> > South Omaha, Nebraska
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: David Faulkner <drdsfaulkner@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America <
> > irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 5:27 PM
> > Subject: [IRCA] Doesn't anybody sign off anymore?
> >
> >
> > Hi All:
> >
> > Noted in the last half hour WUFO, 1080, Amhearst, NY w/urban contemp,
> > WKTE, 1090, King, NC w/urban oldies (both on late for MLK Day?) and the Oil
> > City on 1120 w/ESPN, all blasting in between 1800 and 1830. Only WUFO is
> > new here. Why do I get the feeling the foxes have taken over the AM
> > henhouse?
> >
> > 73
> > David
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